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bespoke radio

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for the masses headline additionally

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july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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masses how you doing

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how you doing

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today is wednesday june 23rd

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christmas eve 2021

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175 days into the new year only 190

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days left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of nowhere a

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undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful i would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world

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all across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg r

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a the planets i'm your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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you know what it is

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it's uap tfe

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yeah man we're getting close is it

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tomorrow

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holy crap well in anticipation

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of the events that are about to go down

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in the

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next 48 hours tonight very special guest

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richard dolan joins us that's right this

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is going to be a full uaptf

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preview preview preview

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preview special event and

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that's going down richard will be with

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us at the bottom of the hour

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uh looking forward to that always love

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it when richard is here and so do you

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tomorrow night it's fader night with

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open lines all night long it's your

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calls your conversation

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ufos conspiracy time travel i'm going to

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tell you right now

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if the uap task force report

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uh bust out tomorrow i'm going live on

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the air i'm going live

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the second that thing drive if it drops

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tomorrow i don't care 10 o'clock in the

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morning i'm live

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i'm going live and then we'll do the

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that's i'm just saying it's uh and if

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oh friday i'm on a plane so that's it

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i'll be at the airport live streaming at

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the airport

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uh grant cameron and his crew nicole uh

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reached out to me today jimmy can you

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can you come on with us friday night uh

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i said absolutely absolutely i'm there

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they sent me the links and everything to

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i was sitting here with wait a minute

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um yeah yeah here we are it

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is the 23rd tomorrow's the 24th let's

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see how things shake out

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and there's nothing man

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it is silent i need to hit this coffee

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out of this fade to black mug and tastes

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tastes better because it's in that mug

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i was uh today i you know what i

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i'm in a great mood lots of things went

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bit but i'm flying back to indy

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memorial uh which is happening on sunday

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and i was speaking to uh uh some friends

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today that i haven't spoken to my

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jerry reese kemp my singer from high

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jimmy bruhn spoke to those guys

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two of the most talented musicians

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um and i'm gonna uh hopefully hopefully

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see jimmy i'm definitely gonna see jerry

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but jerry and i were talking today

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such a great drummer and it was just so

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thinking about where everybody is at

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today man if we kept that band together

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ah man we should we should reunite we

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should get that band together that was a

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good band

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all right we were called anthem

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yep and we did all that cool stuff and

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i've got lots of stuff to talk about

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tonight but but it was so cool talking

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to jared he goes man you know what one

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of my favorite musical moment because

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he's a gigging drummer today he's still

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playing drums

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uh out there getting it done but he goes

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man one of my was when we played

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the gymnasium in in high school and i'm

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i'm here to tell you there is nothing

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and uh but he said it and and i remember

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it like it was yesterday he goes

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universe by black sabbath i go dude

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so anyway i'm gonna get to see jerry

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this weekend hopefully see jimmy broom

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jimmy's on grandparents duty and

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uh but if he can break away from that

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back to why friday is you know i'm gonna

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be on the plane going back to indy

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i can't hang out with grant cameron uh

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is is friday going to be the day is this

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stuff going to break

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while i'm in the air is it going to

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but i'm pretty excited and richard dolan

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all of it all right uh now

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this july 17th is the date for our

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forbidden disclosure online conference

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richard dolan linda moltenhau lou

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billy carson and myself it is an 11

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hour all day live event

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um we're going to be presenting two hour

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chunks with everybody

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my two hour chunk will be spent with lou

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and um and and lou and i are gonna sit

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and have a conversation

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and then at the end of the night all of

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are going to get together and sit down

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for a round table with all of you

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so the tickets are available right now

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you can click on the link below in the

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video description box get over there get

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your tickets

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11 hour event and certainly with

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everything that's about to go down

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in the next couple of days uh a few

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this event and digesting where the world

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uh with the best of the best is

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uh making up to be a very extraordinary

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event so the tickets

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just click on the link right there right

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there it's right below you

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you can go over to jimmychurchradio.com

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we've got a banner there

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you can click on that and i was talking

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to richard earlier saw the banner man

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saw the banner over on the website looks

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pretty good i see yeah it does

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yeah it does so click and i get your

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tickets now follow us on twitter

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at j church radio yeah jimmy on friday

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julie of york i'm going to tell you

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julie you are so cool

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and yes that is me on friday and if you

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want to see what julie just posted

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head over to f2b right there on twitter

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and you can check that out but that's

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pretty close that's pretty close

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at j church radio on twitter let's get

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it happened u.s technology entrepreneur

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john mcafee hanged himself

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he was found earlier today after the

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authorized his extradition to the united

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mcafee was a pioneer of antivirus

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software we all know that i've got

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he was indicted in tennessee on tax

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he was also charged in a cryptocurrency

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fraud case in new york

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spain's high court agreed to extradite

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mcafee to the united states

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a court document was released stating

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that today the provincial justice

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was found dead in his cell today

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jailed in barcelona for about nine

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months mcafee still had opportunities to

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appeal his conviction

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but could not stand more time in jail

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and all of this is according to his

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lawyer

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javier v alba

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now last night in southern california

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about 40 cows broke free from a

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slaughterhouse where a gate was

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accidentally left open

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and they stampeded through pico rivera

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sheriff's department reported at about 8

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that the cows were loose in the area of

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and durfee avenue residents were

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advised to avoid the area located about

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a mile from the slaughterhouse

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and i've seen the videos it's crazy man

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they were free

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was it was pretty cool

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and personally i think they've earned

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their freedom

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they should be sent to like the plains

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of texas

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to roam free forever that's all one

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so they found 39 one is still

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one is still running around somewhere

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all right the esa the european space

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agency

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says that it is thrilled by the number

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of people who have applied to join

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its astronaut program a total of 22

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589 individuals filled out the online

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form

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two and a half times the interest level

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when the esa last ran a competitive

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process back in 2008

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there was also a sizable jump in women

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wanting to go into orbit

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5419 applications from women this time

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compared to

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only 1 287 last time

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esa says it will give contracts to

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between four

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and six individuals to join its

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astronaut corps

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uh on a full-time basis but it plans

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also to recruit a reserve

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up to 20 people who will be held on

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standby in case other opportunities

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emerge

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pretty cool now uh

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let's see tied the detergent

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tied hold on for a second

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this is dolan oh man

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i i gotta reply to the old i i just have

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to tide

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the detergent the proctor and gamble

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laundry brand

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has partnered with nasa that's right

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all of this to explore how to clean

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astronauts clothes aboard the

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international space station

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as well as future crude missions to the

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moon and mars

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under the terms of the new space act

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agreement

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nasa will study tides cleaning solutions

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i'm not making any of this up by the way

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while the company works to bring the

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lessons from its off-planet tests

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to a line of everyday consumer products

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for use

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here on earth now wait a minute

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how how were they cleaning their clothes

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before

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right i'm just asking for a friend

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what's been going on at the iss

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they they weren't washing their clothes

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all right i also announced today warren

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buffett has resigned from his trusty

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position

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at the bill and melinda gates foundation

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the 90-year-old investor announced today

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in a statement buffett didn't specify

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why he's leaving the foundation

343
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but noted that he already resigned from

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all corporate boards

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other than berkshire hathaways

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the question is who's going to replace

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warren

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there there's a lot of rumors let's get

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this show cracking

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happy birthday to today glenn danzig

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is 76. unbelievable

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warrant guitarist j allen

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my old friend man i've known that guy

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forever joey allen today

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dolan's got it coming to him here in a

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few minutes our dead guy's birthday

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today is stewart

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sutcliffe 1940 to 1962 died at the age

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of 21

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stewart of course was the original

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bassist of

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the beatles stuart left the band to

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pursue his career

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as a painter having previously attended

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the liverpool college of art

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he and john lennon are credited with

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inventing the name

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the beatles as they both like buddy

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holly's band

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the crickets after collapsing on april

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10

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1962 he was taken to the hospital but

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died in the

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ambulance on the way there the cause of

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death

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was a brain emerge he was just 21 years

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old happy birthday stuart on this day in

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history

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1992. john gotti

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the teflon don is sentenced to multiple

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life terms without the possibility of

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parole

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while in prison teflon died of throat

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cancer

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on june 10 2002

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ham in 1961

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ham the chimp was launched on a rocket

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from

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cape canaveral and was the first hominin

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in space he survived his ocean

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splashdown

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and lived 20 more years at a zoo

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in washington dc and that

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i didn't know that that's a that's a

395
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good one that's a good fader factor

396
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right there

397
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all right tonight very special guest

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richard dolan is here

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he wants to come in early i'm like no

400
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man you gotta wait

401
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you gotta wait richard wait your turn

402
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all right all right but richard dolan is

403
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with us at the bottom of the hour

404
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tonight's uh a very big night we are

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doing

406
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a uap task force preview

407
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and what can we expect what do we know

408
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:17,360
uh about this report right now so we're

409
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gonna do

410
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all of that tonight and tomorrow night

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is fader night

412
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with open lines all night long we'll see

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it might break tomorrow it might break

414
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tomorrow let me hit this man

415
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you like this mug you like that you like

416
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that

417
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it's all you got to do links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com head to the amazon

421
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store go to the website

422
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fade to black plan all of our black moon

423
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424
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cbd infused products are all

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fade to black blend yeah it's the best

428
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coffee in the world it truly

429
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what a day

430
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a trippy place to hang out

431
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:27,039
and uh it's maddening

432
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it's fun it's angry

433
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:33,919
it's melancholy and it's all of those

434
00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:36,799
things at the same time

435
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:39,679
when i'm out in the real world

436
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:42,880
conversing with friends

437
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,960
someone will always say something like

438
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:46,320
you know i've got

439
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:49,440
1 324 followers on twitter

440
00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:51,200
right somebody else you know something

441
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:54,640
like you know i've got 379 followers on

442
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,159
twitter

443
00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:58,480
and it it's amazing to me because the

444
00:21:02,789 --> 00:20:59,200
numbers are

445
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:02,799
always very specific

446
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:05,840
that's right because well

447
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:08,880
they know right

448
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:12,720
they're obviously checking a lot

449
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:16,320
like in you know all day long

450
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,510
and yeah i know i'm mentioning twitter

451
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:27,360
but you know it's the same

452
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:30,000
all around you know instagram whatever

453
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:30,559
but

454
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:34,480
i i just don't follow this stuff

455
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:37,440
and i mean yeah once in a while i'll

456
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:38,480
notice it

457
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:41,200
and i kind of glance at it but i don't

458
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,039
pay attention if somebody asks me

459
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:45,440
and they do you know i don't have an

460
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:46,080
answer

461
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:49,520
uh and and i'm not embarrassed by it i

462
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:53,760
just don't know don't follow it

463
00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:58,000
today a media company asked me about my

464
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:01,679
numbers and you know they needed some

465
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,840
influencer information right okay

466
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:07,520
you know it was again for me it's kind

467
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:10,480
of funny because i just don't know

468
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,640
and and i'm not about to go through all

469
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:14,320
of my social media and tally up the

470
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,919
numbers i didn't want to do it and i

471
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:17,360
didn't and so

472
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,880
you know just for me to answer their

473
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:20,480
question you know how many followers do

474
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,720
you have on on social media well man i

475
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:24,080
don't know

476
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,950
it's there go and add it up right okay

477
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:32,960
well

478
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:37,600
you see social media is like this for me

479
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,480
this is what i do something pops in my

480
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:42,720
head

481
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:45,919
right somebody sends me a pic and i post

482
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:46,799
it and move on

483
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:49,919
that's it you know there's nothing more

484
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,880
i you know i i don't post shocking stuff

485
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,720
i'm not you know this you know

486
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:56,400
i'm you know i'm not here to stir the

487
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,039
pot or get into fights or red pill i

488
00:23:01,029 --> 00:23:00,480
don't do any of that stuff and you guys

489
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:01,039
know that

490
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,960
week's shows you know and that happens

491
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:08,799
once a week and that's pretty much

492
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,280
it you know i have other things to do

493
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,520
all day long like well you know get my

494
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:15,200
thoughts together for what i'm saying

495
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,320
right now

496
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:18,240
it's another thing that i have to do

497
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,440
seriously

498
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,600
there is no magic formula going on and

499
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:23,600
then of course

500
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:27,120
i'll post a breaking news story and

501
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,159
this happens a couple of times uh

502
00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:32,880
per week when something for me

503
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:33,520
personally

504
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:37,039
affects me and and that's the breaking

505
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:38,000
news story

506
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:41,200
right and and i'll get to that like

507
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:42,559
today

508
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:46,559
john mcafee died by by hanging

509
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,520
right today in his prison cell in spain

510
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,480
huge story for sure especially for me

511
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,720
because i followed john since the early

512
00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:58,320
days of his company

513
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:02,880
honestly although i've never met the guy

514
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:05,919
i really had mad respect for him you

515
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:06,480
know he

516
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:10,080
talked like i wanted to talk

517
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:13,919
i'm being serious he looked the part

518
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:17,279
you know he's like a man's man for sure

519
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,480
and he truly lived life on his terms

520
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:23,039
those documentaries i i really enjoyed

521
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:24,559
him i mean the man

522
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:28,000
did it his way he was a bona fide rebel

523
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,320
on

524
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,120
every level so today i jumped over to

525
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:33,200
his twitter page

526
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,159
and i spent the better part of an hour

527
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,440
reading all of his posts

528
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,640
in order during his last months in a

529
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:42,720
spanish prison

530
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crazy read and i would recommend

531
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:49,760
it to everyone especially knowing that

532
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:54,320
he died today in that prison cell anyway

533
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:57,840
i came across this

534
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:00,960
written last year

535
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:05,039
okay quote i have a million twitter

536
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:06,559
followers

537
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:11,279
probably only one percent will read this

538
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,960
and not care

539
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:17,120
stop me in my tracks man stop me right

540
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:19,120
in my tracks

541
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:22,799
and i thought to myself he absolutely

542
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:26,960
knows what it's like to lose

543
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:29,919
everything like everything because the

544
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:36,470
even his closest friends right they're

545
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:39,039
now all gone

546
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,320
think about that john mcafee

547
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:44,159
you've got mcafee installed right now on

548
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:45,679
your computer

549
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:48,799
that john mcafee

550
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:52,400
tweeting from prison

551
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,240
it messed with me messed with me

552
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,080
i have a million twitter followers

553
00:26:00,870 --> 00:26:00,080
probably only one percent will read this

554
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:00,880
and not

555
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,230
last month he wrote this on may 23rd he

556
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:11,840
died today

557
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:14,720
right and so but this three weeks ago

558
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:17,760
may 23rd 2021

559
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,400
he wrote i once had everything

560
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:25,200
after uncountable lawsuits and the reach

561
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:25,840
of the

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00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,279
feds i now have nothing

563
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:32,400
but inside these prison bars i have

564
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:33,440
never felt

565
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:36,720
more free the things you believe

566
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:40,080
you own in reality

567
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,510
holy crap and then less than two weeks

568
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:50,000
before his death

569
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today he wrote this on june 10th

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today is june 23rd this is less than two

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weeks ago

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june 10 2021 quote

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there is much sorrow in prison

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disguised as hostility

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the sorrow is plainly visible even in

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the most

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angry faces i'm old

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and content with food and a bed

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but for the young person is a [\h__\h]

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a horror a reflection of the minds

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of those who conceived them

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end quote holy crap

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holy crap he had nobody to talk to

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nobody to reach out to

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nothing this is his mind

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on twitter for the world to see million

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followers

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how many people are reading this a

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million followers

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probably nobody and nobody cared

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go ahead but more importantly

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remember who your true friends are in

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they may be all that you have left and

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have a party whatever but check in with

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once in a while think about that

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church

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tonight richard dolan is here this is a

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very special night here on the show

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we are doing the uap tf

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preview special event all of that with

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richard tomorrow night

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is fader night open lines all night long

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right here on the game changer network

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and kgra

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the planet i'm your host jimmy church

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time to lose

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fade to black is not

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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jimmy church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black i

734
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am your host jimmy church tonight

735
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richard dolan joins us on the eve

736
00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:29,839
the purported eve of the uap task force

737
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report that is due for delivery

738
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tomorrow on june 24 2021 maybe friday we

739
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don't know

740
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tonight's show is on the 23rd

741
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we're going to do a full preview tonight

742
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of what is expected what we could

743
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see what we would like to see as well as

744
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a full analysis

745
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,440
of lou elizondo's comments on fade to

746
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black last week on thursday the 17th

747
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richard of course is one of the world's

748
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leading researchers and writers on the

749
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subject of ufos

750
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,280
and he completed his graduate work at

751
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:01,040
the university of rochester

752
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:03,839
studied a u.s cold war strategy european

753
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,960
history

754
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:07,359
and baseball more on that in just a bit

755
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he is the author

756
00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:11,599
of ufos of the national security state

757
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he co-authored with bryce abel a.d after

758
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disclosure and of course his latest book

759
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,079
well uh the alien agendas richard host

760
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,160
of weekly radio show the richard dolan

761
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:24,880
show and kgra's currently featured on

762
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several television shows i've done uh a

763
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series or two with richard myself and

764
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and you know what richard um oh by the

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way

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website richard dolanmembers.com the

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links are over at jimmychurchradio.com

768
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:41,520
richard um i am going to welcome back my

769
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,240
friend

770
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,240
hi jimmy thank you always a pleasure

771
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:46,400
with you yeah always always a pleasure

772
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:49,680
richard um i am going to i don't know if

773
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,440
you know this

774
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:54,240
but uh there is a film we can't say the

775
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:54,960
name

776
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:57,359
but the announcement is uh coming

777
00:36:03,430 --> 00:35:59,520
shortly and the trailer for this film

778
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:03,440
is is ready and and uh i think next week

779
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,920
um the announcement's going to be made

780
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:07,920
i'm narrating this film

781
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,640
and you're the star of it what yeah

782
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:12,320
that's crazy talking yeah i know right

783
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:13,280
crazy talk i mean

784
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,960
how cool is i mean i am just so i'm so

785
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:17,599
honored

786
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:20,800
uh you know uh to see the film and to

787
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:22,400
see everybody that i can't say any more

788
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,359
than that right now

789
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,200
do i do i know what this i don't think i

790
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:27,599
know where this film is yeah

791
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:29,680
i don't think i know what we're talking

792
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,599
about

793
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:33,520
yeah man that's that's because you're

794
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,720
richard

795
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,480
yeah yeah i'm in it i hope it's pretty

796
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:38,720
good anyway you did well you did well my

797
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,760
friend but yeah

798
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,440
once again we're doing another project

799
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,960
together and and

800
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,599
uh i really dig it and this this is uh

801
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:47,200
this is a barn burner this is a good one

802
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:48,560
this is a good one i'm really proud of

803
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:49,200
it

804
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,480
here hold on hold on i'm going to text

805
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:56,000
you right now

806
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:59,280
um uh on the on the air

807
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,320
that we're live listening they can't

808
00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:04,640
read the text and i i'm not allowed to

809
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:07,839
read the text apparently oh bad

810
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:11,440
okay now you know what it is

811
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:15,040
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay

812
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:18,320
yeah good people yeah yeah yeah yeah

813
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:21,359
exactly so uh the trailer is great and

814
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,240
and uh it's pretty cool okay so uh that

815
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:26,160
announcement will come next week

816
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,920
richard didn't even know so okay um

817
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,839
normally at this point of the program

818
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,599
richard i asked you about what you

819
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:35,040
listened to earlier today but i'm to

820
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:37,359
stop you right there about the music

821
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:40,640
who cares about it okay because fun fact

822
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,480
richard dolan says that he probably

823
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,079
knows more about baseball

824
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,320
than anybody listening to this program

825
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:50,640
right now i did not say that

826
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:53,680
that's totally yes i did not say how

827
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:56,560
i mean you know i did growing up i did

828
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:56,960
know

829
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:59,280
probably way more baseball statistics

830
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,800
and things like that then

831
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,880
maybe then then i know ufo stuff right

832
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,720
now yeah that's insane

833
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:07,200
you know and so richard richard and i

834
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:08,160
earlier this week

835
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,720
this is revealed to me and we ended up

836
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,320
we were supposed to be talking about

837
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:14,079
important stuff and we went off on

838
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:15,680
baseball for about an hour

839
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:18,720
he did yeah and and i was

840
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,079
now look we know that uh

841
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,000
and i told you about my true baseball

842
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:25,920
love yes now we're going to get to that

843
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:26,640
uh

844
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:33,440
you love

845
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:37,200
um uh nwa right that that big reveal

846
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:37,839
happened once

847
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:41,359
in the show yeah exactly and but this

848
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,960
this baseball thing uh stopped me dead

849
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,400
in my tracks and

850
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:48,160
it was like who knew have you ever

851
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:49,760
discussed this uh

852
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,880
before i don't know maybe probably

853
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,599
really i am a base i was for many years

854
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:57,359
a true baseball fanatic

855
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,960
like every kid in america growing up

856
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:03,119
when i did when you we did

857
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,960
i would fantasize about winning the

858
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,640
world series or the grand slam home run

859
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:07,839
at the bottom of the night then i'd run

860
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:09,839
around my baseball in my backyard

861
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,200
dollar mr grand slam he did it ladies

862
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:14,720
and gentlemen you know i did

863
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:17,680
all of that stuff but i played baseball

864
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:18,960
um

865
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,400
all the time and you were you were in

866
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,200
uh uh you know some people go out and do

867
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:27,280
civil war reenactments

868
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,320
right and and you did the baseball

869
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,320
version of that for a number of years

870
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,640
for about 10 years while i was a ufo

871
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:36,320
author you know i was

872
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:39,040
known in the ufo field but uh from i

873
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:40,880
don't remember the exact year from

874
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:44,400
maybe the late 90s till about 2007

875
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:47,920
2008 i played

876
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:51,119
vintage baseball that's a that's a major

877
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:51,920
thing

878
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:56,960
known as the genesee country museum it's

879
00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:59,200
a beautiful beautiful historical

880
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:02,000
recreation of a 19th century village in

881
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:02,880
america and they

882
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,000
did it absolutely perfectly and at one

883
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:07,680
point in the 90s they decided hey you

884
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:08,560
know what let's

885
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:11,920
set up a vintage baseball league and

886
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,560
shortly after that started i i joined

887
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,760
and

888
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:18,000
we had four teams that were exhibition

889
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,760
teams so every weekend

890
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,839
there would be one game on saturday one

891
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,079
game on sunday so two teams

892
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:26,240
you'd have you know four teams and we

893
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:28,319
did that but we also hosted regional

894
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,680
tournaments

895
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,160
because we had the best absolutely the

896
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:33,839
best baseball

897
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:36,400
field in probably the whole eastern u.s

898
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,760
for vintage baseball

899
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,240
a true field of dreams right right so we

900
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:42,079
would have teams coming from

901
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,480
uh different parts of canada from boston

902
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:46,000
from virginia

903
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:48,079
you know like the eastern half of north

904
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:49,359
america

905
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:52,240
and we would we would do that and um but

906
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,240
we would play our league during the

907
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,640
spring through the summer and fall and i

908
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,079
loved it absolutely loved it and we

909
00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:00,880
played by 1850s rules

910
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,400
historically accurate i'm picturing the

911
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:05,359
uniforms and

912
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:08,560
everything you can't violate right

913
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:11,200
everything is going to be the balls the

914
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:12,640
bats

915
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,760
they absolutely made a very genuine

916
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,800
effort to have

917
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,880
things as authentic as possible like the

918
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:20,079
balls so baseball

919
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:21,359
back in those days they didn't have

920
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,440
machines winding them or all hand wound

921
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,440
so they weren't nearly as hard so when

922
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:26,720
you hit a

923
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,720
a ball that was made in the 19th century

924
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,920
it's not going to go you're not going to

925
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,200
hit a 400 foot home run

926
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,640
right it's not going to happen and and

927
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,240
with the bats the bats were totally

928
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:35,920
different as well they were

929
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,640
much more club like uh you know modern

930
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,079
bats have a very what they're called a

931
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:42,160
whip handle bat they're very thin

932
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,760
and you can you can whip them around

933
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,359
fast and get some bat speed

934
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,240
not so with 19th century bats so it's a

935
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,440
different kind of a game

936
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:51,200
and but it's an exciting game it's

937
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,640
actually it was a lot of fun

938
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,319
pitching was underhand which is how we

939
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,640
get softball because the original form

940
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:58,160
of pitching baseball it was a

941
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:59,040
gentleman's

942
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,760
sport and if you're the pitcher or the

943
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:03,119
hurler

944
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,720
it would be very unsportsmanlike if you

945
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:06,240
actually try to make it difficult for

946
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,440
the batter to hit the ball

947
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,599
oh so you weren't like throwing fastball

948
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:11,440
strikes and curveballs

949
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:14,640
well you were hoping you were allowing

950
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,200
somebody to have the opportunity to put

951
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:18,720
some wood on the ball

952
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:21,839
yes and no because even by the 1850

953
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:25,200
so in 1867 the curve ball was invented

954
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,880
kind of candy cummings invented the curb

955
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:28,079
and people were like that's impossible

956
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,119
you can't make a ball curve

957
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:31,200
well he did but even before then the

958
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,359
game was becoming very competitive

959
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:35,280
more and more because he'd have these

960
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,800
the fanatics known as fans would come

961
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,480
out and they'd want their team to win

962
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,359
so pitchers there were rules against

963
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:43,119
pitching overhand with a lot of speed

964
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:44,640
but pitchers

965
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:46,880
started to learn to like flick the wrist

966
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,680
a little more

967
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:50,000
maybe flick the elbow get some speed in

968
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:50,880
there

969
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:52,960
and try to do ways to deceive the batter

970
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:55,200
and so that was the game that we

971
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,920
were playing so yes you i did a lot of

972
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,200
pitching actually so i can

973
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,000
speak to this and so you you'd want to

974
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:04,560
lay the ball in there

975
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:07,760
but you um but you're also trying to get

976
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,720
the guy out

977
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,319
or or at least not let him hit the ball

978
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:12,079
well now when you're in that kind of

979
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,119
pitching

980
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:15,680
uh even if i were to throw overhand i'm

981
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:17,440
not throwing at 90 miles per hour

982
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:20,960
or even 70 at this point in my life

983
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:24,160
but with underhand pitching uh there are

984
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,760
little things that you learn to do

985
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:27,680
like ways to spin the ball and yeah i

986
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:29,119
would try to do different things yeah it

987
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,760
was a lot of fun so you were a pitcher

988
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,440
i played every position i did a lot of

989
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,440
pitching uh

990
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:36,800
played a lot of center field and third

991
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,000
base and how was your swing

992
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,760
oh good i i that's one thing i can do i

993
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:43,440
can hit a baseball man

994
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:46,560
your trip okay all right so i can hit a

995
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:47,599
baseball

996
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,920
and i can on a good day i mean i'm 50

997
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:52,079
i'm going to be 59 like next week so i

998
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:52,720
can

999
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,640
i now notice like when you run to feel

1000
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,760
like you're going through three feet of

1001
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:01,119
water because we had guys we had old

1002
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,880
guys on our teams that were like that

1003
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,480
right back in those days i was still in

1004
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:06,160
my 40s and i could still

1005
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:09,280
i could still dig in and run and i i

1006
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,640
haven't played that game in over a

1007
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,079
decade so

1008
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,800
i doubt very much i would have the same

1009
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:16,319
capabilities you know

1010
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:19,920
all right last week fun tremendous a

1011
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:20,800
beautiful game

1012
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:23,839
last week or two weeks ago now uh you

1013
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:24,400
and i

1014
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:26,960
uh i'm not gonna say anything more than

1015
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,480
this but you and i had a little private

1016
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,560
meeting uh with another group of people

1017
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,800
and you said there you go wow jimmy i

1018
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,920
didn't know that

1019
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,160
about you thank you for for sharing that

1020
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:37,680
but here we go

1021
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:40,240
now i'm gonna give you my baseball jimmy

1022
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:41,599
church fun fact

1023
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,960
you ready yes i worked for vin scully

1024
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:46,480
for two years

1025
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:49,599
oh whoa great legendary dodgers

1026
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:50,319
announcer

1027
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:53,440
dude going to all the dodger home games

1028
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:57,440
you know right there in the press booth

1029
00:45:00,870 --> 00:45:00,160
and um so i know you're you're like ufos

1030
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:00,880
vin scully

1031
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:03,760
yeah yeah yeah you did it yeah right

1032
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:04,079
right

1033
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,359
and and i i remember this um

1034
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:09,440
i'm going to school at the time uh for

1035
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:11,119
broadcasting journalism and i want to

1036
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,079
get into the game

1037
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:14,480
and do what i'm doing now and here i am

1038
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:15,200
you know with

1039
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,359
friggin vin scully right but i want him

1040
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:18,960
to know what's going on

1041
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:21,280
and and a little you know give you know

1042
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:24,640
get some advice and i said i said so vin

1043
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:28,720
uh i'm going to broadcasting school

1044
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:31,760
and he goes for what right

1045
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,240
said i want to get into radio i need

1046
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,720
some advice he goes no problem

1047
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:39,280
right i said okay and i'm waiting he

1048
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:40,480
goes

1049
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:45,440
good luck that was his advice

1050
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:49,040
oh man develop any competition oh man

1051
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,920
it's such a cool he's like uh this kid's

1052
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,599
going to be a problem

1053
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:56,720
such a cool guy i got to tell you okay

1054
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:59,440
let's uh story story yeah yeah we'll uh

1055
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:01,119
i'll tell you some vin stuff off of the

1056
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:01,839
air

1057
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,760
um uh i want to tell some vin

1058
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,440
scully stories now but i can't do it i

1059
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:08,960
can't it's just not cool

1060
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,960
um is tomorrow the day here we are

1061
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,960
and i was talking about this last week

1062
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:16,240
where i

1063
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,800
feel like i did when i was like five

1064
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,800
years old waiting for christmas eve

1065
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,480
right and i'm waiting for for a june

1066
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:26,640
24th right i'm waiting i'm waiting for

1067
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:27,440
this

1068
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:30,560
um does it feel that way to you yeah so

1069
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:30,960
all right

1070
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:32,560
i i assume every listener you've

1071
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,920
probably talked about this in the last

1072
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:36,000
half hour but the uap task force report

1073
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:37,440
coming out from the senate

1074
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:40,560
um it's supposed i mean that was the

1075
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:41,839
word it was supposed to be tomorrow but

1076
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:43,599
now i'm hearing maybe friday

1077
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:46,640
right maybe maybe the 25th so who knows

1078
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,079
and will it will it go um will there be

1079
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:52,160
the classified and unclassified portions

1080
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:53,520
available will it be available to the

1081
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:54,880
public or just

1082
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,800
how's that all going to work out uh

1083
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:58,079
certainly i think we're going to be

1084
00:47:02,790 --> 00:46:59,200
seeing this report

1085
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:02,800
either tomorrow or friday i would think

1086
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:06,079
well are you excited i d do you feel

1087
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:10,319
some is there a tangible tense thing in

1088
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:11,359
front of you

1089
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:14,240
no actually no honestly what i i do know

1090
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,520
is like when it comes out

1091
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:18,079
i'll be like okay that's my day that

1092
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:19,760
there goes my day

1093
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,359
i'll have to read and comment

1094
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,839
so i will do that and i'll be ready i'm

1095
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:27,359
not excited i mean it's

1096
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,119
i'm not indifferent i don't want to give

1097
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,200
the wrong impression i think it's

1098
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,040
it's potentially very good that this

1099
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:35,200
report will come out

1100
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,960
but i i don't i don't usually get

1101
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:38,559
excited about a lot of things before

1102
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,200
they happen

1103
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,599
that's honestly the truth so i'll just

1104
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:43,920
wait and we'll see

1105
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:46,880
i'm not expecting this to be ground

1106
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:47,599
breaking

1107
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,400
or earth shattering whatever i i would

1108
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:52,000
be surprised if there were not a couple

1109
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,760
of interesting tidbits in there

1110
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:58,160
but i mean there's just so much that's

1111
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,000
not going to be in there

1112
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,480
like i mean think about all the you know

1113
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,559
we're being told it goes back to 2004

1114
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,079
tic tac so

1115
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:09,440
no no actual history but even even back

1116
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,960
to that point

1117
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:13,440
there was stevensville texas 2008 you

1118
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,640
think that'll be in the report no

1119
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:15,839
somehow i doubt it

1120
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,359
chicago o'hare 2006 amazing case

1121
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:22,079
and okay so there weren't military jets

1122
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:22,800
chasing that

1123
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,160
object but you're talking o'hare airport

1124
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:28,160
you know that is absolutely of national

1125
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,280
security interest

1126
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:30,960
you could make the argument i don't

1127
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,839
think that'll be in there there are

1128
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:34,640
countless

1129
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,400
you know the uh the when the new york

1130
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,000
times a couple of years ago reported

1131
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:40,240
about the uss roosevelt and

1132
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,760
what seemed like eight or nine months of

1133
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,440
sightings from the summer of 2014 in the

1134
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,880
spring of 2015

1135
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,520
nearly daily encounters we were told

1136
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:48,400
that that

1137
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:52,240
ship had or the crew had with uap

1138
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,760
nearly daily is that 180 is that 200

1139
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,280
encounters whatever

1140
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,880
are they going to be in clearly they

1141
00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:00,319
will not not all of them

1142
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,760
you know there are there's a lot that

1143
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:03,359
will be left out that's right and you

1144
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:04,640
just reminded me there's

1145
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:08,720
two other cases that have

1146
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:12,319
kind of fallen to the side here

1147
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,160
one was the fa-18s off of the coast of

1148
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:19,200
oregon that had that sighting uh

1149
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,640
that tyler uh rogoway uh reported and

1150
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:24,000
that went out on the drive

1151
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:27,040
and and there was transcript there was

1152
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:27,920
the radar

1153
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:31,680
that you know flightaware um

1154
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:34,079
that siding wow i actually totally have

1155
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:35,040
forgotten about that's

1156
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,319
what i'm saying it's just kind of

1157
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:38,160
falling to the side would would that be

1158
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:39,119
in the report

1159
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:42,160
and the second case very similar to that

1160
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:43,280
one

1161
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,640
is the commercial airline combined with

1162
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:48,800
the military airspace

1163
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,160
uh uh between phoenix and

1164
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:54,720
and new mexico yeah they had the

1165
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,440
collision right

1166
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:57,440
right right right right is that to be in

1167
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:00,079
there and that was reported by the faa

1168
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:02,960
so it's not like this isn't a government

1169
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:05,839
report that isn't accessible to the dia

1170
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:08,240
well maybe that will be that would be

1171
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:09,520
actually that would be fascinating but

1172
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:10,720
here's the other problem

1173
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,240
and lou elizondo talked about this

1174
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:16,240
at least publicly a couple of times

1175
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:17,440
probably more

1176
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,559
which was i think one of the reasons he

1177
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,400
and danny sheehan initiated the

1178
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:23,920
complaint to the inspector general's

1179
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:24,400
office

1180
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:27,920
at the pentagon was because he

1181
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:31,359
was strongly getting the notion

1182
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,119
that this investigation was just not

1183
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,520
going to have much promise to it i don't

1184
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,800
think he was criticizing the people

1185
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:40,400
involved i think he was just looking at

1186
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:40,960
the

1187
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:44,160
inherent limitations of 180 days which

1188
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,520
is not a lot of time

1189
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:47,200
necessitating like you've got to get

1190
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:50,240
security clearances to really

1191
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,160
do a proper investigation and is that

1192
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:55,200
even possible and

1193
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,640
the impression that i have gotten is

1194
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,640
that the staff was pretty small anyway

1195
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,880
and so i think all of those factors and

1196
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:02,800
many others i think was convincing lou

1197
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:04,480
that

1198
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,000
this this process needed some

1199
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,720
oversight hence the inspector general

1200
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:12,319
and that's actually what i have heard

1201
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:12,880
and i

1202
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,880
i don't think it's a problem to say this

1203
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:16,400
had a dinner with danny sheen when we

1204
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:17,119
were at our thing

1205
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:20,000
a week and a half ago i think there's

1206
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:21,520
questions about whether the inspector

1207
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,960
general's office

1208
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:24,640
is able to do proper oversight of the

1209
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:26,400
uap task force you've got

1210
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:28,160
you got the the one problem and then you

1211
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,440
have the problem of the oversight of

1212
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:31,040
that and

1213
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:34,400
so how much access are these members of

1214
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:35,760
the task force really going to be able

1215
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,000
to

1216
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,640
have how many departments can they get

1217
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,680
into are they going to get to the

1218
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,079
pentagon sapoc that special access

1219
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:44,319
program oversight committee which we all

1220
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,119
learned about

1221
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:47,280
through the davis wilson notes that i've

1222
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:49,440
been talking about for several years

1223
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:52,400
and that i i certainly think is

1224
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,160
critically important

1225
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,040
to um for gaining access to ufo or

1226
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,960
special access program data that's

1227
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,720
sensitive seriously doubt they're going

1228
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,720
to be able to get into that

1229
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:04,480
and um so there's just going to be a lot

1230
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:07,119
of holes and it's not their fault

1231
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,640
but i just you know i'm really wondering

1232
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:12,000
how far they can go

1233
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:16,000
now what do we what do we know uh

1234
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:19,760
today certainly uh lou

1235
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:22,000
uh mentioned some things last week on

1236
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:23,280
this show he called in on

1237
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:26,640
on thursday night um and

1238
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:30,480
uh stated a few things pretty clearly is

1239
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,839
i i would say is fact uh

1240
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:35,839
because of the way he presented it and

1241
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:37,119
this is

1242
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:41,760
he said uh uh 78 pages

1243
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,240
um that appears to be the classified

1244
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:49,119
section of the report and then uh an

1245
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:51,359
additional dozen or so pages

1246
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:55,280
of the unclassified or public

1247
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,480
version so we go from 78 pages but the

1248
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,160
public will see what about 12.

1249
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:02,640
yeah about a dozen about a dozen pages

1250
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,520
and that's

1251
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:07,040
pretty interesting um pretty much that's

1252
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:07,839
almost nothing

1253
00:53:13,829 --> 00:53:11,680
and he said yeah i don't know right

1254
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,839
and we'll get to the public reaction six

1255
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:15,839
months of waiting

1256
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,559
12 to 15 pages are you serious you get a

1257
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,000
couple of index cards

1258
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:22,400
with some footnotes right and you know

1259
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:23,680
probably 40 percent of that will be

1260
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:24,559
padding anyway

1261
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:28,400
yeah that's what i'm saying

1262
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,880
uh let's circle back to that it's like

1263
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,720
in junior high school when you do the

1264
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,359
triple spacing between your lines and

1265
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:37,440
the largest font possible in the widest

1266
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:38,079
margins

1267
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:41,119
and try to get away with it right try to

1268
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:42,319
get away with it

1269
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:45,760
uh now okay so there's that part

1270
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,040
and then uh the other interesting

1271
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,960
thing that he said last week he said a

1272
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:52,240
few things but

1273
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:55,680
that it will be on time

1274
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:58,720
that uh the 24th is the day so

1275
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:01,920
i know that uh 25th has been out there i

1276
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:04,880
i kind of look at it like this it gets

1277
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:06,960
to congress it gets to the senate on the

1278
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,440
24th but they're going to review it

1279
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:12,240
and then maybe on the 25th we'll we'll

1280
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,599
see what they're going to discuss with

1281
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:15,119
the public and i think that's a pretty

1282
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,559
safe zone to go in

1283
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,480
i don't think it's going to be the whole

1284
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:20,720
report is 78 pages

1285
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,480
i didn't i guess okay so that includes

1286
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:26,240
the classified component

1287
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:29,520
yes so okay yeah yeah yeah and

1288
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:33,839
and look i'm not i'm not suggesting that

1289
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,599
uh because uh i don't think lou should

1290
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:39,280
say anything like this public but i'm

1291
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,599
not i don't think he was doing a page

1292
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:43,680
count and went okay 78 and this much is

1293
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:45,520
public okay this much is

1294
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:49,200
uh classified okay there's 120 cases

1295
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:51,680
no there's not and i don't think he

1296
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:56,000
counted to 65 cases and it's not 120.

1297
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,160
um i and he did say last week that

1298
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,640
he wanted to leave this to the dia to

1299
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,000
present to the senate it's

1300
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,280
their report and he's just not going to

1301
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,880
disclose a bunch of stuff

1302
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,640
publicly at this point because it wasn't

1303
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,079
can i just can i tell you

1304
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,480
yes so i'm you know i'm working at least

1305
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:16,160
sporadically but i am working on volume

1306
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:17,760
three of ufos in the national security

1307
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:18,559
state

1308
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:22,079
so that covers the ufo story from 1992

1309
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:25,359
to today unless i split it into

1310
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,319
an extra volume i don't know but i

1311
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,240
probably have in terms of

1312
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:33,040
notes i couldn't even count the number

1313
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:34,160
of sightings

1314
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:37,599
i probably got you know

1315
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:41,119
easy for that period of time

1316
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:44,480
three thousand four thousand pages of

1317
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,680
right no like that i just did so i've

1318
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,760
had more time to do it than this task

1319
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:51,040
force but

1320
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:53,119
i mean my point is that the data there's

1321
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:55,599
a tremendous amount of data

1322
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:56,960
my problem is going to be just paring

1323
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,880
all that stuff down i don't know how i'm

1324
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:00,480
going to do it but

1325
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:03,760
it's absolutely there case and numbers

1326
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:06,079
of cases that i've got collected

1327
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:09,440
just from the last 20 years hundreds and

1328
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:10,799
hundreds and hundreds i mean i don't

1329
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:11,760
know how many

1330
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:15,040
just an enormous amount so and of good

1331
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:16,720
cases i mean

1332
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,040
many of them are military not all but

1333
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,359
there's a lot of them in the military

1334
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:24,160
so i'm not here to fault these people i

1335
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,520
mean they've got their own particular

1336
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,839
protocols they've got to go through

1337
00:56:31,789 --> 00:56:29,680
in you know to get access to these

1338
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:31,799
things but well there's the whole

1339
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:34,160
interagency part of this too as well

1340
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:35,920
where you're jumping

1341
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:39,040
uh into other sections of

1342
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,040
uh the dod and and and trying to

1343
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,240
navigate all of that that can't be easy

1344
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,799
no no you know so it's difficult it's

1345
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:50,480
difficult and

1346
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:52,240
you know i mean this is i think what

1347
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:53,599
prompted

1348
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:57,040
uh lou and danny sheehan to to issue

1349
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:58,000
there i think it was a

1350
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,440
formally called a complaint but it was

1351
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:01,280
to the to the ig

1352
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:03,119
not to not to get on the case of the

1353
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:05,440
task force but i think to

1354
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:09,520
have a record of the process and

1355
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:10,880
you know maybe just to do their best to

1356
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:12,559
prod produce

1357
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,599
this team to do the best job they could

1358
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:17,760
that's what it seems like anyway well

1359
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:19,040
let's uh let's take

1360
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,640
let's take our break here because when

1361
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:22,160
we come back after the break

1362
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:25,599
it's uh uh there's a few statements

1363
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:29,280
that uh lou made about what is in

1364
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:32,880
the report and he stated this stuff

1365
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:35,440
publicly on the show so i feel pretty

1366
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:35,920
safe

1367
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:38,400
in repeating it the question is and

1368
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:40,240
we'll do all of this after the break

1369
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:43,200
is it actually going to be in the report

1370
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:43,839
the way

1371
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:46,000
that lou stated this last week and we're

1372
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,839
going to go through all of that we have

1373
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:49,440
three different views that we need to

1374
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:50,240
look at

1375
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:52,079
with this report we'll do all of that

1376
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:54,000
next with richard dolan i am your host

1377
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:54,960
jimmy church

1378
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:57,920
on the game changer network and kgra the

1379
00:58:03,510 --> 00:57:59,599
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1380
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,520
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1381
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,359
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1382
00:58:11,260 --> 00:58:06,880
right back after this short break stay

1383
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,710
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1384
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,880
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1385
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:31,200
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1386
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,160
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1387
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1389
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jimmy church tonight richard bleepin

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dolan is here

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01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,240
we're talking about the uaptf report

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that may be released tomorrow maybe

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friday

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we shall see but tonight is uh uaptf

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eve uh for sure uh richard uh during the

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break i know you were watching me i was

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uh over

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uh in the youtube chat they're not

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talking ufos over there man you ap

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01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:02,559
they're talking baseball

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01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:08,480
uh okay we have three let's let's let's

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get down to the meat of the matter here

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01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:14,160
we've got three three

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three different ways uh that this

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01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:20,160
report should approach things uh it's

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been reported by

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01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:24,400
uh the new york times cnn and and then

1519
01:04:28,150 --> 01:04:26,400
lou came on the show and discussed this

1520
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:28,160
last week you and i were talking about

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this at length

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01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:33,200
uh privately three different views one

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view number one it's our tech view

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number two

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it's adversarial it's russian chinese

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and of course

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three not of this earth something else

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01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:46,880
uh we've got these now lou said

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on this program richard

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that the report will state categorically

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that

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is us tech let's leave the other

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let's leave the other two views uh let's

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01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:07,039
let's table that for a second but let's

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stop right there that's a

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that's that's strong that's strong

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01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:12,720
there's a good reason he could say that

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though

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it's not that there is no u.s tech that

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could do

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ufo things but we're talking about

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01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:23,599
objects that are swarming us

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naval battle groups i mean actually

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engaged in what you would have to call

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harassment

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so i mean on that basis you could

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easily it wouldn't be a difficult

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argument to make it seems to me

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that there are no candidates

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within the u.s system with a private

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contract or military

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01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:47,440
if they've looked into this that would

1553
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prompt them to engage in virtual

1554
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,480
hostilities i mean again i went back go

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01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:54,480
back to the roosevelt 2019

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01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:57,200
article which was referencing 2014 to

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2015.

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01:06:01,510 --> 01:06:00,319
at least if you you know if the

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reporting of leslie kane and ralph

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01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:03,119
blumenthal is accurate i have no reason

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to doubt it

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that ship and the crew members of that

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01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:08,079
ship were getting nearly

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daily harassments from unknown objects

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we're talking month after month after

1566
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month and i mean unless i'm missing

1567
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:17,280
something here

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01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:20,319
so it's not that us black budget tech

1569
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:23,680
can't necessarily do these things

1570
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:27,440
but you really do have to ask yourself

1571
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:30,000
who and why and you know what i mean i

1572
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:31,119
think it doesn't it doesn't

1573
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:33,520
really make a lot of sense that you

1574
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:34,880
would have your own

1575
01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:38,799
technology harassing your navy

1576
01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:41,839
the united states navy i i had the same

1577
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:43,359
question when i researched

1578
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:45,760
uh early ufo history when i was running

1579
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:47,680
ufos and national security state volumes

1580
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:48,160
one

1581
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,119
and two i would ask myself if this could

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01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:53,119
be black budget tech when

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01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:56,640
u.s military bases and installations and

1584
01:07:02,470 --> 01:06:59,839
craft and aircraft and naval craft we're

1585
01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:02,480
also similarly being being harassed

1586
01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:04,319
by unknown objects and it's a fair

1587
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:06,079
question to say all right is this some

1588
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:08,079
secret tech we're developing but you

1589
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:09,440
really have to ask yourself how many

1590
01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:11,839
years have to go on

1591
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:13,760
and until you start to think all right

1592
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,520
this is probably not our own

1593
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:18,640
tech that we're testing okay so maybe

1594
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,839
that's why elizondo

1595
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:22,319
said what he did right so let's let's

1596
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:25,680
let's stop right there for a second

1597
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:29,119
the first question i have if that is

1598
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:32,319
going to be clearly stated in the report

1599
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:35,920
like that how is the senate intelligence

1600
01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:36,559
committee

1601
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,160
supposed to react right i mean

1602
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:43,200
what do you mean say what

1603
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:44,720
right i mean how are they supposed to

1604
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:47,200
react to that kind of statement

1605
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:49,920
you know and i mean biden just met with

1606
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:51,680
putin

1607
01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:52,880
what do you think the odds are that they

1608
01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:54,799
even mentioned this

1609
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:58,559
i'm gonna guess zero you know why

1610
01:08:01,589 --> 01:08:00,640
because i don't think that he even has

1611
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:01,599
the slightest

1612
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:03,280
i don't think anyone in the u.s national

1613
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:04,559
security community really thinks it's

1614
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:05,200
russia

1615
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:08,319
or china i just don't because

1616
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:11,200
it's so provocative it's not that there

1617
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:12,240
isn't tension

1618
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:14,079
we know there's tension right right all

1619
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:15,760
right the u.s is sending warships into

1620
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:16,640
the

1621
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:20,319
uh you know black sea south china sea

1622
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:23,520
south china sea over there so yeah

1623
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:25,759
it's absolute like there's tensions

1624
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:27,120
there

1625
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:28,560
so it's not impossible but you're

1626
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:29,920
talking right off the coast of southern

1627
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:30,880
california

1628
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:34,319
right off the coast of virginia ah

1629
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,480
it's it's really that just strikes me as

1630
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:40,319
that's pushing it yeah it's pushing

1631
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:41,679
you're being kind

1632
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:45,359
that's pushing it okay so

1633
01:08:51,749 --> 01:08:48,799
again if it's clearly stated

1634
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:51,759
you know that it's not our tech what

1635
01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:52,560
about

1636
01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:55,759
the theory um and it's been out there

1637
01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:58,880
quite a bit not only just recently but

1638
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:02,159
for years that we have been

1639
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:05,839
back engineering alien tech and

1640
01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:08,640
that is part of our arsenal that secret

1641
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:10,719
access programs this is going

1642
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:14,080
on so can you say

1643
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:15,759
i mean oh okay let's stop right there

1644
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:17,600
what about that those theories and

1645
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:20,880
you've talked about this yourself

1646
01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:23,199
yeah and i've i've often argued against

1647
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:24,799
the people

1648
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:28,239
who are saying it's like it's lockheed

1649
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:29,120
they built it

1650
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:32,319
right um but i i shouldn't you know you

1651
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:34,880
can't be definitive i i should not

1652
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:36,719
seek to be definitive that to say that

1653
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:41,590
that they've got i believe that they've

1654
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:43,120
got a flying saucer

1655
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:46,719
richard richard the wilson davis dock

1656
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:49,600
right exactly jumps into this subject in

1657
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:50,400
fact

1658
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:53,440
the wilson davis document probably is

1659
01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:57,840
is centered around this idea

1660
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,159
yes well but if you if you take

1661
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:05,520
at face value what wilson

1662
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,560
said in those notes to davis uh what he

1663
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:10,400
was told is that there had been

1664
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,560
little to no progress made on on reverse

1665
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,320
engineering something which i don't

1666
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:16,480
believe i believe that they might have

1667
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:17,600
told him that but i just don't believe

1668
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,120
it's true

1669
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:22,159
so but yeah i mean there's definitely

1670
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:23,040
reason to

1671
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:24,719
look at lockheed and not just wilson

1672
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:26,239
davis notes but

1673
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:29,360
go back to the 1988 arv story which i

1674
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:30,000
realize is not

1675
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:32,239
a slam dunk it's not necessarily exactly

1676
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:33,360
true but

1677
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,719
i don't know i think it i think it

1678
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:36,480
probably is true

1679
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:38,480
in other words highly advanced reverse

1680
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,000
engineering efforts

1681
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:42,800
by the late 80s and that's not the only

1682
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:44,719
story there either

1683
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:48,400
so it's entirely possible

1684
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,800
that we have this but then you have to

1685
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:52,640
keep coming back to

1686
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:55,360
the sheer quantity is lockheed gonna be

1687
01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:55,760
doing

1688
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:58,960
the 2019 swarm against the the battle

1689
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:00,719
group off you know by catalina island

1690
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:03,760
well that's if that's true and that's if

1691
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:06,800
it's the same type of uh uh

1692
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:09,520
ideas of craft in what is doing the

1693
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,560
incursions

1694
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:13,440
but i would also suggest that there's a

1695
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:13,920
tic-tac-toe

1696
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,719
i'm sorry but if if they are

1697
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:18,560
definitively drawing the line in the

1698
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:20,960
sand like this is not us tech

1699
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,440
they would have to state that in this

1700
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:25,440
report whether it's an untruth or

1701
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:27,040
bending of the truth

1702
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:29,920
because they aren't going to disclose

1703
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:31,120
that they've been backwards

1704
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:33,280
engineering alien technology that's not

1705
01:11:36,550 --> 01:11:34,560
going to be in the report

1706
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:36,560
what about this what if uh the the

1707
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,760
language is so lawyerly and legalistic

1708
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:41,440
that when they say it's not u.s tech

1709
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:42,880
they mean u.s government tech

1710
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,600
yes that's my point right yeah you know

1711
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:47,600
bending the rules just a little bit a

1712
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:47,920
little

1713
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:51,040
einstein light bend around the sun

1714
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:53,360
one thing you know when i i've had a

1715
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:54,800
couple of interesting conversations

1716
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,040
in the last couple of weeks with some

1717
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,440
interesting folks who

1718
01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:01,280
one of them definitely knows a great

1719
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:03,199
deal about

1720
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,760
activities with inside area 51 and that

1721
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:07,360
type of thing

1722
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:11,199
or at least he knows enough and

1723
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:13,520
in inside those facilities whether it's

1724
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:15,920
area 51 or similar

1725
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:19,840
um you know sealed off places

1726
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:22,960
what what you've got is it's not even

1727
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:23,520
simply

1728
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,560
private contractors

1729
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:29,199
that are doing work in there but it's

1730
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,950
foreign governments so i don't know how

1731
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:36,480
the the relationship

1732
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:40,000
exactly works like

1733
01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:42,640
but i like where you're going with this

1734
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:43,920
i got it on a very

1735
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:45,840
i like where you're going very good

1736
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:47,600
source

1737
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:49,120
this guy's in a very good position to

1738
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,640
know this

1739
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:52,000
and i'm not going to mention the

1740
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:54,640
country's

1741
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:58,000
oh man israel yes

1742
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:01,280
absolutely israel but also this is going

1743
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:02,320
back years

1744
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:05,920
right republic of china yes yes

1745
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:09,440
all right so that's another one and

1746
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:12,880
so think about that like you you go into

1747
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,080
area 51

1748
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:15,760
and you know remember when they did

1749
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:17,600
storm area 51 a few years ago let's see

1750
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:18,400
let's say

1751
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:19,760
thousands of people broke and they

1752
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:22,320
stormed area 51 and they break in

1753
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,600
and suddenly they're in a people's

1754
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:25,520
republic of china lab

1755
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:28,880
yeah idf yeah and idflab

1756
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:32,480
and and that would be a lawyerly

1757
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:35,840
way of getting around that kind of

1758
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:36,960
statement

1759
01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:40,000
right it's not u.s tech

1760
01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:42,320
you're right it would not be it would

1761
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:43,280
not be

1762
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:46,719
i i would stir i would doubt that

1763
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:48,320
the chinese or the israelis or anyone

1764
01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:50,800
else is going to be doing that to the us

1765
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:53,679
fleet but i don't make someone's doing

1766
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:54,640
it

1767
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:58,080
from around

1768
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:00,880
from our species or from another species

1769
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:02,800
somebody is doing that

1770
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,840
but yeah that what i heard about the the

1771
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,360
fact that the us government essentially

1772
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:10,000
is a police security force

1773
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:13,280
for private and

1774
01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:17,040
other national entities

1775
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:19,280
that have somehow maybe they rent the

1776
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:20,080
office space

1777
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:21,120
that's what it sounds like or the

1778
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:23,280
laboratory space to do

1779
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:24,880
their work in these facilities isn't

1780
01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:26,719
that something

1781
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:29,679
it's nothing surprises me anymore

1782
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:31,679
nothing nothing at all now

1783
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:36,080
okay so staying on this

1784
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:39,760
the that i'm staying on point number one

1785
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:40,640
here that it

1786
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:44,000
is not us tech the

1787
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:46,960
ufo community skeptics debunkers

1788
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:48,719
believers it doesn't matter

1789
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:52,480
that chunk is going to now

1790
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,719
no matter what if this report is kicking

1791
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:56,159
the can down the road they're going to

1792
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,120
say aha

1793
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:00,239
but it's not us right it's not

1794
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:04,000
us and we'll allow this debate

1795
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:06,239
and and research and you know the

1796
01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:07,199
theories that

1797
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:10,159
forever right it leaves it wide open to

1798
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:17,030
yeah and and you have to wonder

1799
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:19,120
will there be the last thing politicians

1800
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:20,640
want to have to do is like

1801
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,159
they don't want to have to do anything

1802
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:24,000
they don't have to act

1803
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:26,800
so if there's a conclusion in this

1804
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:28,560
report

1805
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:31,520
that's definitively saying this is not

1806
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,080
u.s

1807
01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:34,000
tech which is apparently what elizondo

1808
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:36,320
has said right

1809
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:38,159
so that's kind of scary if you're a

1810
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:40,000
politician because then you have to do

1811
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:40,480
something

1812
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,640
that's what you might feel obligated i'm

1813
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:44,159
telling you i'm telling

1814
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:47,280
that that part i mean i can i can just

1815
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,760
see

1816
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:49,280
yeah the members of the senate

1817
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:51,199
intelligence committee with their heads

1818
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:51,600
just

1819
01:16:01,990 --> 01:16:00,159
can't right i truly can't wait but

1820
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:02,000
that they just it's like oh so we have

1821
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:03,600
to take responsibility to do something

1822
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:04,800
now

1823
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,920
to a mystery and and it's important

1824
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:11,760
because

1825
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:14,560
if you conclude it's russia or china

1826
01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:15,120
those are

1827
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:18,400
very serious not just political

1828
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:19,280
implications like

1829
01:16:26,709 --> 01:16:22,800
international diplomacy

1830
01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:26,719
considerations because that's

1831
01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:28,400
that's something that can take you to

1832
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:29,840
armed conflict now

1833
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:32,640
it to this second point i'm looking at

1834
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:34,400
the clock let's get these uh next two

1835
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:34,960
things in

1836
01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:39,440
uh before the break adversarial

1837
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:42,800
what's the definitive proof here and how

1838
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:46,400
may this report approach this

1839
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:49,120
because if they start pointing fingers

1840
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:49,600
you know

1841
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,239
it's it's how did russia and china get a

1842
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:54,480
hold of this kind of tech are they

1843
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:56,800
are they it's not going to happen

1844
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:58,159
they're not going to do that

1845
01:17:02,149 --> 01:17:01,360
do you think well if they don't the

1846
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:02,159
third choice

1847
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,320
richard is e.t and if this report

1848
01:17:09,669 --> 01:17:08,400
says nothing well we can't prove

1849
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:09,679
anything it's not

1850
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:12,480
it's not united states tech we're not uh

1851
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:14,800
we don't know if it's russia or china

1852
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:16,239
and we don't know if it's then then

1853
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:17,760
what's the purpose of the report they'll

1854
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:19,840
drag the e.t thing out forever

1855
01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:23,520
forever for years there are so many

1856
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:25,280
gradations and levels

1857
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:28,320
of fallback positions

1858
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:31,040
for these guys to to maintain this

1859
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,679
secret

1860
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:34,800
for years and years and years so right

1861
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:36,480
now we're at a very limited level we're

1862
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:37,520
at the level of where

1863
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:40,159
where we are now allowed to say yeah

1864
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:40,800
there's something

1865
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:43,040
out there we don't know what it is that

1866
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:44,000
may not sound like a lot

1867
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:46,080
to us but keep in mind even five years

1868
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,719
ago we had never reached that level as a

1869
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:50,640
society publicly

1870
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:53,360
we had never reached that admission and

1871
01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:54,719
suddenly

1872
01:17:58,790 --> 01:17:56,719
thanks to people like louise elizondo

1873
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,800
and christopher mellon and

1874
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,640
we got to that position and leslie came

1875
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:02,640
around blumenthal let's not forget them

1876
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:04,480
we got to a position where we could

1877
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:06,560
actually have a conversation in

1878
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:08,800
in public and acknowledge that there's a

1879
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:10,000
mystery there

1880
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:12,880
but there are so many levels beyond this

1881
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:13,520
like

1882
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,360
even before you get to acknowledgement

1883
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:17,440
of crash retrievals which i think is the

1884
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,560
big red line

1885
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:20,880
once you acknowledge that you've

1886
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:23,120
acquired or recovered

1887
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:25,920
some of this exotic tech now you're into

1888
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:28,159
official cover-up territory

1889
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:29,760
and now like in an era where no one's

1890
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:31,440
supposed to believe in conspiracy

1891
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,199
theories ever again because that's

1892
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:34,960
considered wrong now

1893
01:18:38,149 --> 01:18:36,640
this would be admitting the mother of

1894
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:38,159
all conspiracy theories like the what's

1895
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:39,360
bigger than the ufo

1896
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:42,480
cover-up there's nothing no

1897
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:45,199
no so it'd be like saying don't believe

1898
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,640
in conspiracy theories

1899
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:48,320
but actually the biggest one of all time

1900
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:50,480
is totally true we've been lying about

1901
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:51,520
ufos forever

1902
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:54,719
like that's just not going to happen so

1903
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:57,600
and there are many positions that they

1904
01:19:00,470 --> 01:18:59,760
that one can take between where we are

1905
01:19:02,229 --> 01:19:00,480
now

1906
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:02,239
which is that there's a mystery there

1907
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:04,640
and acknowledging crash retrievals like

1908
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:07,679
they could say um yeah we've actually we

1909
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:09,440
have been studying this for a while but

1910
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:10,719
hey we didn't really want to panic the

1911
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:12,239
public that's why we kept secret

1912
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:13,600
and b we still haven't figured anything

1913
01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:15,600
out like they could say that

1914
01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:17,840
and that's still maintaining the

1915
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:19,520
cover-up or they can say

1916
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:21,600
we actually did recover some artifacts

1917
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:25,199
but damned if we can figure it out

1918
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:28,560
and just on and on anything to avoid

1919
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:30,480
culpability

1920
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:34,239
and and blame like that's the thing that

1921
01:19:37,990 --> 01:19:36,239
they have to avoid and

1922
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:38,000
look they could drag this out for five

1923
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:39,760
years easy they could do this for ten

1924
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,800
years

1925
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:42,239
and they might even be able to walk some

1926
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,840
of these admissions back it wouldn't

1927
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:45,360
shock me in the least

1928
01:19:49,510 --> 01:19:48,000
it would be difficult now because as one

1929
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,520
person said to me too much toothpaste

1930
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:51,120
has gotten out of the tube

1931
01:19:55,189 --> 01:19:53,199
and it's not going back in but it

1932
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:55,199
doesn't mean that we're going to be on

1933
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:58,239
the avalanche to you know the snowball

1934
01:20:00,390 --> 01:19:58,640
effect

1935
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:00,400
of disclosure which is what i wrote with

1936
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,040
bryce isabel 11 years ago when we wrote

1937
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:05,679
80 after disclosure our assumption which

1938
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:06,320
i think was

1939
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,080
easily the dominant assumption that

1940
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,320
everyone had which is that if

1941
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:12,080
some of this important information came

1942
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:13,679
out it could cause a snowball effect

1943
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,880
because

1944
01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:16,080
people would be like hey you've been

1945
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:18,159
lying to us for all of these years

1946
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:21,679
and that hasn't happened yet that's

1947
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:24,239
you know that was the big thing that has

1948
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,760
not happened and

1949
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:27,280
and i think partly because we're seeing

1950
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:29,120
much greater control over

1951
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:32,000
all media than even existed in 2010 you

1952
01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:33,120
know including

1953
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,800
social media and all of that but um

1954
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:38,320
yeah there's a lot more control and it's

1955
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,560
coming out in a much more

1956
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,639
deliberate way and you know folks like

1957
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,239
elizondo they're all afraid of breaking

1958
01:20:48,990 --> 01:20:46,080
their security clearances

1959
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:49,000
they're terrified the uh the

1960
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:50,320
expectations

1961
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:52,800
uh of so many and you don't even have to

1962
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:54,800
be in the ufo community to

1963
01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:57,600
be aware of the ua ptf and it's

1964
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:58,719
certainly been covered

1965
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:02,000
in the national and worldwide media

1966
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:04,639
and there's an expectation of content

1967
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:06,080
what is going to be

1968
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:09,920
in the report but what about what's

1969
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:12,320
not going to be in the report that

1970
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:14,880
that's another consideration here

1971
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:17,040
where some of these things won't be

1972
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:17,920
addressed

1973
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:21,040
at all is is that just as important as

1974
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:22,080
something that would be

1975
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:25,280
written in the report oh so

1976
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:27,440
so much cannot be put into that report

1977
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,560
because it would

1978
01:21:32,590 --> 01:21:30,480
be one thing that we got right about

1979
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:32,600
after disclosure is recognizing how

1980
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:33,840
revolutionary

1981
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:37,840
true ufo disclosure would be it's

1982
01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:39,600
it's truly a case that nothing would be

1983
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:41,600
bigger and

1984
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:43,760
and it's just it can't they the people

1985
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:45,440
who are running our world and there are

1986
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:46,560
such people

1987
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:48,560
and they run our major media and they

1988
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:50,480
run our politics

1989
01:21:55,110 --> 01:21:53,120
they they cannot let this happen this is

1990
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:55,120
why you know when

1991
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:57,040
i mean maybe i'll turn out to be wrong

1992
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:58,800
about this but so far i think i'm right

1993
01:22:02,149 --> 01:21:59,440
which is that

1994
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:02,159
the the group that has been pushing for

1995
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:03,920
this information to come out

1996
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,000
let's say the ttsa the bigelow crowd lou

1997
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:08,159
elizondo and

1998
01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:11,120
christopher mellon like and hal put off

1999
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,239
who's been

2000
01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:15,040
part of that whole thing for decades i i

2001
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:16,159
wouldn't say that they're like the

2002
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:17,120
ultimate freedom

2003
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:19,520
fighters trying to get full disclosure

2004
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:20,639
like they're not like that

2005
01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:22,560
believe me every time i every time i try

2006
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:23,920
to write to someone like hal put off who

2007
01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:24,639
i've known for

2008
01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:27,920
20 years he's we're very nice to each

2009
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:29,280
other

2010
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:32,080
and he he'll just give me what he

2011
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:35,280
decides to give me and never a drop more

2012
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:38,480
and it has always been like that so

2013
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:42,960
they they keep their information

2014
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:45,920
very closely they're not at they're not

2015
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:48,639
like evangelists for ufo disclosure

2016
01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:51,920
they're not they've got other other fish

2017
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:53,600
to fry now what are they actually trying

2018
01:22:58,709 --> 01:22:55,760
to do that's a really good question

2019
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:58,719
i think that they want some openness on

2020
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,600
this subject

2021
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,360
i know that they do i know they want

2022
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:03,840
some and i think they believe that

2023
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:07,679
but they they are bound by

2024
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:10,480
significant security clearances so

2025
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,760
really what i think they're doing is

2026
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,440
they're just

2027
01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:15,360
they're on a little tightrope and they

2028
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:17,679
are carefully

2029
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:20,800
trying to walk their way across that

2030
01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:22,800
without getting into trouble

2031
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:24,080
that's definitely because you talk to

2032
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:25,920
someone like luis elizondo that's

2033
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:29,440
obviously the case it's obvious he knows

2034
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,679
a hundred times more than what he has

2035
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:33,120
said publicly

2036
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:35,520
but he cannot they cannot go over the

2037
01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:37,360
line none of those people

2038
01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:38,560
so there's so much they can so here's

2039
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:41,120
what's not going to be in the report um

2040
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,239
the fact that we've had countless

2041
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:44,400
military engagements through the decades

2042
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:47,520
no the fact that um

2043
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:49,440
they're being crash retrievals and other

2044
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,120
types of acquisition of ufo tech

2045
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:53,120
won't be in obviously they won't the

2046
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:54,639
fact that there's been in my view

2047
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,000
good argument to be made that there's

2048
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:57,840
been acquisition of of bodies and

2049
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:00,880
live beings and there there won't be any

2050
01:24:04,629 --> 01:24:02,480
analysis of the actual structure of

2051
01:24:07,669 --> 01:24:04,639
secrecy in other words

2052
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:07,679
how is this whole thing managed

2053
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:10,480
and kept from the public and that's not

2054
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:12,000
in the mandate of the task force so it's

2055
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:14,000
not it's not their fault but

2056
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:15,360
these are important things they're just

2057
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:17,360
they won't be discussed

2058
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:20,560
and abductions no that won't come

2059
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:24,000
in encounters of any sort the the thing

2060
01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:25,920
with the ufo phenomenon and what it

2061
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:26,960
represents is there's

2062
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:30,000
so many important things

2063
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:33,360
happening with it and

2064
01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:35,760
you know each one of those can you could

2065
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:37,360
spend weeks and months and years

2066
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:40,880
studying will there be um any discussion

2067
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:42,320
over the fact that these

2068
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:45,760
these beings they seem to be omnipresent

2069
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:47,360
around our planet

2070
01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:49,280
one thing that i've been looking at i

2071
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:50,639
don't know many other people who look at

2072
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:52,800
this i actually like to study

2073
01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:55,520
current ufo sightings reports i'll go to

2074
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:57,920
the national ufo reporting center i love

2075
01:25:02,229 --> 01:24:59,679
that site it's peter davenport

2076
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:02,239
thank god he does it uh george filer is

2077
01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:03,280
still going

2078
01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:05,199
george god bless him right and he does

2079
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:06,719
filer's files and

2080
01:25:10,149 --> 01:25:09,520
so there's there's good information and

2081
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:10,159
and what

2082
01:25:16,870 --> 01:25:14,320
you learn when you read these things is

2083
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:16,880
how many amazing sightings go on around

2084
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:17,440
the world

2085
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:19,440
every day people say oh who cares about

2086
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:20,719
sightings lights in the sky

2087
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:23,280
no you should care there's like one

2088
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:24,480
typical thing that i see

2089
01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:27,040
all the time are these like 3 a.m over

2090
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:28,400
your house in your neighborhood

2091
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,040
sightings

2092
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:31,440
of low black triangles or sometimes low

2093
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:33,280
saucer-shaped objects

2094
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:36,239
skulking about your neighborhood like i

2095
01:25:42,070 --> 01:25:38,320
would like to know what that is

2096
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:42,080
that goes on seemingly every single day

2097
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:44,159
it does i had cheryl costa on the show

2098
01:25:48,629 --> 01:25:45,360
last night oh

2099
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:48,639
absolutely beautiful yeah oh man right

2100
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:50,800
and i'm looking at the charts and going

2101
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,280
over

2102
01:25:54,709 --> 01:25:53,679
all of the and when you start connecting

2103
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,719
the dots when you

2104
01:25:58,629 --> 01:25:56,719
you know you're overlaying these charts

2105
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:58,639
and and you're starting to see what's

2106
01:26:03,350 --> 01:25:59,440
going on there

2107
01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:03,360
is a definite real pattern going on here

2108
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:05,679
not discussed that deals with new york

2109
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:06,400
state

2110
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:08,560
uh sightings lying around here and she's

2111
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:10,400
probably done beyond that

2112
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:14,000
but yeah she's collected a lot of data

2113
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:16,400
and um that's another good source glad

2114
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:17,120
you mentioned her

2115
01:26:20,830 --> 01:26:18,880
yeah yeah and uh she sent me the

2116
01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:20,840
california book uh

2117
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,639
yesterday i hope you got to go catch up

2118
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:24,080
on her yeah

2119
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:27,360
well so um now when we come back i want

2120
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:28,880
to discuss another angle

2121
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:32,000
of all of this and you know uh

2122
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:34,239
philip class or the michael schumer's of

2123
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:35,520
the world and

2124
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:37,920
the skeptics and the debunkers that have

2125
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:38,639
uh

2126
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:41,199
constantly stated that that we're crazy

2127
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:44,080
this is our imagination we're delusional

2128
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,639
uh schizophrenic whatever the whatever

2129
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:48,400
the case may be

2130
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:51,679
um and last night i'm reading

2131
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:55,840
a book uh uh it's a book on physics

2132
01:27:00,070 --> 01:26:58,800
and uh in space but there was a a

2133
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,080
chapter in the book and there was a

2134
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:02,880
couple of pages uh talking about

2135
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,120
uh ufos and visitations here and

2136
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:09,520
name dropping right uh talking about

2137
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:11,040
eric von daniken and

2138
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:14,400
and and these these

2139
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:16,320
brought up david ike in this book on

2140
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:18,159
physics i couldn't believe it

2141
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:21,600
so anyway but uh uh

2142
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:23,920
and i'm reading these page and the thing

2143
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:24,719
that

2144
01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:28,719
this physicist uh was clearly stating

2145
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:30,159
is that we're not being visited by

2146
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:32,159
anything anywhere and and

2147
01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:35,280
it's an impossibility and and what

2148
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:37,440
what what happened that's why he brought

2149
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,639
up those names

2150
01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:40,320
right the ones to just trash talk

2151
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:42,639
against yes yes yes yes yes

2152
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:45,760
so what now what what happens now to the

2153
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:47,840
michael shermers of the world

2154
01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:50,239
right if if this is now the position of

2155
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:52,080
our military and this is how we are

2156
01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:53,600
moving forward

2157
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:56,400
every network is talking about it this

2158
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:56,960
is

2159
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,840
the subject of today changed your public

2160
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:01,040
opinion

2161
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,800
do you think they'll know i talked with

2162
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:04,560
one i'm not going to mention any names i

2163
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:05,280
talked with one

2164
01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:07,280
uh filmmaker in the ufo field who knows

2165
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:08,719
a lot of the skeptics and

2166
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:11,840
this is years ago many years ago and

2167
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:13,280
said to me like there's one

2168
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:16,560
famous skeptic over beers

2169
01:28:21,189 --> 01:28:19,040
privately he was like oh yeah i know

2170
01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:21,199
there's a lot of good ufo reports

2171
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:23,440
but they could never ever admit it

2172
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,639
publicly

2173
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:25,920
because that's the problem with being a

2174
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:29,120
public persona you box yourself into a

2175
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:30,880
corner it's very difficult

2176
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:33,679
everyone me you everyone else they have

2177
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:34,880
to deal with that

2178
01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:36,320
and and the best thing you can do is be

2179
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:38,239
aware of it and fight it

2180
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:41,440
but there's always that temptation to

2181
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:44,719
play to your base and that's what

2182
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:46,960
this one particular skeptic over some

2183
01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:49,679
beers with the filmmaker

2184
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,679
basically said yeah no i i know there's

2185
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:52,800
a lot of good you

2186
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:55,120
know what they do play to the base you

2187
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:56,000
know they

2188
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:59,199
they do and i can't i i

2189
01:29:02,470 --> 01:29:01,520
you know could you imagine you know

2190
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:02,480
philip class

2191
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:05,199
going on you know larry king okay man i

2192
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:06,560
was wrong

2193
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,960
no it's just not it's not gonna play out

2194
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:10,480
that way michael sherman community

2195
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:11,920
handlers would not have approved

2196
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:14,480
no absolutely not michael shermer is a

2197
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:15,280
nice guy

2198
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:22,080
and i reached out i reached out to him

2199
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:23,440
recently called his office

2200
01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:26,639
you know you know uh it uh it's jimmy

2201
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:27,679
church wanna

2202
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:31,040
want to get you on the show it was

2203
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:33,679
it was a flat out no and i thought it

2204
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:35,040
wasn't gonna be an issue

2205
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:37,360
i i really i think he's a really nice

2206
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:38,800
guy but i can't

2207
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:42,000
see michael shermer um saying you know

2208
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:43,120
what okay

2209
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:46,320
the data is this i was wrong now let's

2210
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:47,760
talk about ufos i

2211
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:49,600
i just don't see it happening i saw that

2212
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:51,280
sam harris

2213
01:29:54,629 --> 01:29:53,199
was making some statements i actually

2214
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:54,639
didn't hear them but i

2215
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:57,520
got the impression that he was somewhat

2216
01:30:00,550 --> 01:29:58,480
um

2217
01:30:02,390 --> 01:30:00,560
friendly toward ufos maybe someone can

2218
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:02,400
correct no i think i know i

2219
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:05,760
i follow sam harris i've listened to

2220
01:30:09,189 --> 01:30:08,000
thousands of hours of sam harris i like

2221
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:09,199
the guy

2222
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:12,560
um uh as radical as you know he's a

2223
01:30:14,709 --> 01:30:14,159
radical dude i mean he's got something

2224
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:14,719
pretty

2225
01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:17,040
a lot i do not like or agree when i hear

2226
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:18,239
him right right

2227
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:20,800
but his he is fascinated with the alien

2228
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:21,440
subject

2229
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:24,639
he is absolutely inquisitive and

2230
01:30:28,629 --> 01:30:27,280
and wants to know and then he stated uh

2231
01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:28,639
i got to take a break right here

2232
01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:30,560
he stated last week maybe a week and a

2233
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:32,400
half ago that he was approached

2234
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:35,440
uh i believe by the nsa

2235
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:38,639
uh for him to uh to

2236
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:41,440
publicly talk about disclosure and i

2237
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:43,840
think he turned him down

2238
01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:46,800
sam harris yes yeah looks like they want

2239
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:47,360
to send here

2240
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:49,440
to talk about ufo disclosure yeah now

2241
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:51,679
type type into your browser during the

2242
01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:52,480
break

2243
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sam harris nsa dis info ufo

2244
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:58,400
watch what pops up and let's take our

2245
01:31:01,270 --> 01:31:00,000
break right here

2246
01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:01,280
this is fade to black i'm here with

2247
01:31:06,149 --> 01:31:03,600
jimmy church tonight richard dolan

2248
01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:06,159
yeah he's typing i'm watching richard is

2249
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:06,719
typing

2250
01:31:10,070 --> 01:31:09,120
i am about to uh also uh yeah we'll talk

2251
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about it

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coverage this is fade to black our meals

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jimmy church more with richard after

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you are listening to fate to black with

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01:34:03,110 --> 01:33:59,280
jimmy church

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01:34:06,709 --> 01:34:05,590
hi i'm reese vance you're listening to

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jimmy church

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ciao

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[Music]

2310
01:35:02,390 --> 01:35:00,239
welcome back fade to black i am your

2311
01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:02,400
host jimmy church tonight richard dolan

2312
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:04,320
is here we're talking about the uap task

2313
01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:06,000
force report

2314
01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:08,800
and uh our little preview on what we

2315
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:09,119
know

2316
01:35:14,229 --> 01:35:12,239
what we can expect and uh it's gonna be

2317
01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:14,239
a very interesting uh

2318
01:35:17,669 --> 01:35:16,000
end of the week here thursday is

2319
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:17,679
tomorrow that's the 24th

2320
01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:19,920
the anticipated release date and of

2321
01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:20,800
course

2322
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:22,400
the other date that has been thrown

2323
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:24,560
around is is friday the 25th and right

2324
01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:26,239
before the break we're talking about sam

2325
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:27,360
harris

2326
01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:30,400
and uh this i just pulled this up

2327
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:33,600
says uh uh an article out there news

2328
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:35,280
really in recent weeks the author

2329
01:35:39,430 --> 01:35:37,280
podcaster sam harrison no fewer than

2330
01:35:42,629 --> 01:35:39,440
three separate podcasts

2331
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:42,639
has stated repeatedly that someone in or

2332
01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:44,239
with connections to the united states

2333
01:35:48,149 --> 01:35:46,000
government has personally reached out to

2334
01:35:49,990 --> 01:35:48,159
him so he can begin to wrap his brain

2335
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:50,000
around the fact that ufos represent

2336
01:35:54,390 --> 01:35:52,159
non-human intelligence

2337
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:54,400
and think about how he might help

2338
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:56,320
prepare the public

2339
01:36:00,790 --> 01:36:00,000
for disclosure did you call that disinfo

2340
01:36:03,669 --> 01:36:00,800
or is that just

2341
01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:03,679
my imagination that you did that no i i

2342
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:06,000
no not just now but before the break

2343
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:08,320
oh did i you were saying it was nsa

2344
01:36:13,109 --> 01:36:10,480
disinfo with sam harris on ufos

2345
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:13,119
no i didn't say this info i i believe no

2346
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:13,760
uh

2347
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:16,320
and if i did i misspoke no okay maybe

2348
01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:16,880
it's me

2349
01:36:19,910 --> 01:36:18,800
okay well it could be it could be both

2350
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:19,920
of us richard

2351
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:21,760
because i typed it in and i did not find

2352
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:24,400
what you found okay on my phone here i'm

2353
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:24,800
using

2354
01:36:30,629 --> 01:36:28,800
google uh so maybe that's why

2355
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:30,639
what was weird is when i typed in sam

2356
01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:32,000
harris nsa uso

2357
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:35,920
ufo dis info the fifth the top one was

2358
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:38,320
lex friedman podcast with sam harris

2359
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:39,600
that comes up on top

2360
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:41,520
but number five was my book after

2361
01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:42,800
disclosure which

2362
01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:45,440
doesn't have sam harris in it i don't

2363
01:36:53,350 --> 01:36:50,070
that was weird yeah take out take out

2364
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:53,360
this info but the point

2365
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:56,560
and i said nsa and you know i've heard

2366
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:56,880
this

2367
01:37:01,910 --> 01:36:58,560
talked about so much over the last

2368
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:01,920
couple of weeks and i listened to uh

2369
01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:04,719
lex friedman who's very guys wicked

2370
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:05,600
smart that guy

2371
01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:07,920
yeah yeah yeah you know what you know

2372
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:09,280
what's funny about lex i want to get

2373
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:11,280
back to sam harris in a second

2374
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:14,960
lex um and i remember when he had

2375
01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:18,320
no subscribers right uh and and what

2376
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:21,280
where he is at now uh in a couple of

2377
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:21,760
years

2378
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:25,920
holy crap right but he is so slow

2379
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:29,679
on his delivery because he's thinking

2380
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:33,199
and his approach to the conversation and

2381
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:36,719
and and i didn't dig that at first now

2382
01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:41,199
i need that i i dig his i dig his way

2383
01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:44,320
of uh of interviewing and he pulls

2384
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:46,719
info man he gets he gets he's

2385
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:53,910
his interview that he did with his dad

2386
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:56,320
have you listened to that i've i've only

2387
01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:57,119
caught a few

2388
01:38:01,669 --> 01:38:00,080
okay go back it's a couple of years ago

2389
01:38:01,990 --> 01:38:01,679
but he sits down with his dad for like

2390
01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,000
four

2391
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:04,719
hours holy crap man what a conversation

2392
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:06,080
what a comment i caught up with dan

2393
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:07,679
carlin hardcore history

2394
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:10,800
it's awesome yes and um a lot of other

2395
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:11,679
folks actually

2396
01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:13,600
and i catch a lot of the clips which are

2397
01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:15,600
easy you know yeah he's really good

2398
01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:18,639
okay so back to you know uh back to sam

2399
01:38:22,629 --> 01:38:19,360
harris

2400
01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:22,639
and who is somebody that uh

2401
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:25,920
is very visible very controversial

2402
01:38:30,550 --> 01:38:29,520
but he's got a very very large footprint

2403
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:30,560
out there

2404
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:32,320
uh with the world in social media

2405
01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:34,000
approached him it's amazing

2406
01:38:40,870 --> 01:38:37,280
yeah yeah yeah amazing yeah

2407
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:40,880
right now and he said no

2408
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:42,880
so did he say like i think they're full

2409
01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:44,159
of it or

2410
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:46,159
wow ufos maybe there's something to it

2411
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:47,679
yeah he he did

2412
01:38:53,990 --> 01:38:51,040
he okay this is uh

2413
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:54,000
what he is trying to make everybody

2414
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:55,280
aware

2415
01:38:58,470 --> 01:38:57,360
is that he was approached by the

2416
01:39:01,910 --> 01:38:58,480
government

2417
01:39:05,590 --> 01:39:01,920
to uh help prepare the public uh

2418
01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:05,600
for for ufos and disclosure

2419
01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:08,880
and that uh the things that are going on

2420
01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:12,239
are not of this world and that's what he

2421
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:13,280
has stated now

2422
01:39:16,870 --> 01:39:15,119
is there a cooperation with that and he

2423
01:39:19,910 --> 01:39:16,880
hasn't said that did he

2424
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:19,920
um uh but yes

2425
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:23,040
and i i i have to take him at his word

2426
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:24,880
i don't think sam harris is gonna go out

2427
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:26,080
there and

2428
01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:28,400
no no he wouldn't lie right that might

2429
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:32,870
well there's two ways to look at it and

2430
01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:34,000
you're going to have two schools of

2431
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:34,719
thought

2432
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:35,840
at all times you're going to have a

2433
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:37,040
school of thought that that's going to

2434
01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:38,480
argue that this is one big

2435
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:39,520
disinformation

2436
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:41,840
psi up to scare the public into

2437
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:44,080
believing that there's aliens

2438
01:39:48,070 --> 01:39:46,320
and come running to the papa the big

2439
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:48,080
state to protect you

2440
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:49,679
that there's a lot of people out there

2441
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:51,440
who will argue that

2442
01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:52,880
and many of those people don't believe

2443
01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:56,719
in aliens or ufos so it's easy for them

2444
01:40:01,350 --> 01:39:59,920
and but then they're you know i i would

2445
01:40:04,709 --> 01:40:01,360
see it differently i mean

2446
01:40:07,990 --> 01:40:06,070
certainly there are people in the nsa

2447
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:08,000
who knows that ufos are real

2448
01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:10,239
and that there's a non-human component

2449
01:40:13,270 --> 01:40:11,679
to it

2450
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:13,280
so let's assume those are the people who

2451
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:16,159
approached harris

2452
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:19,440
so do they genuinely believe in getting

2453
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:21,520
this information out

2454
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:27,189
you know there are people who want to

2455
01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:29,760
keep this secret forever

2456
01:40:33,910 --> 01:40:32,239
and there that's always been a faction

2457
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:33,920
you read the books of donald kehoe from

2458
01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:35,199
the 1950s

2459
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:37,760
and he talked about the secrecy group

2460
01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:39,119
but there were always a faction of

2461
01:40:44,229 --> 01:40:41,119
people who did not believe in secrecy

2462
01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:44,239
even back then because the ruling elites

2463
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:46,080
are never

2464
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:49,440
they're never monolithic they're always

2465
01:40:56,229 --> 01:40:52,800
divergences of opinion then and now

2466
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:56,239
so is it possible that there's a

2467
01:41:01,030 --> 01:41:00,239
an anti-secrecy group only because they

2468
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:01,040
might realize

2469
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,080
we're in 2021 and it's this is becoming

2470
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:06,800
more difficult to contain

2471
01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:08,880
i mean on the one hand it's becoming

2472
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:10,000
easier but on the other hand

2473
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:11,440
more difficult it's becoming easier

2474
01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:14,080
because there is increasingly

2475
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:18,080
global control over digital information

2476
01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:20,480
at least that is attempting attempted to

2477
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:21,840
be happening by

2478
01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:23,280
by governments and centralized powers

2479
01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:24,639
like they want to control they want to

2480
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:26,719
take us back to the 1980s

2481
01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:29,040
and have you know totally centralized

2482
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:30,159
control

2483
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:33,199
but it's difficult because

2484
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:35,280
there's just a lot of decentralized

2485
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:38,000
information that's out there and

2486
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,520
this just may be difficult to contain

2487
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:40,960
and it and it may be that there are

2488
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:42,800
people who think

2489
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,000
this is impossible to keep forever

2490
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:48,960
so let us be let us get ahead of the

2491
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:50,159
game

2492
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:51,679
and we will roll this out the way we

2493
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:53,360
want to do it

2494
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:56,320
as a possibility it is now i want you to

2495
01:42:01,350 --> 01:41:58,239
look at your screen

2496
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:01,360
i don't want this to get out uh

2497
01:42:06,149 --> 01:42:04,239
to the public but uh i want you to look

2498
01:42:09,669 --> 01:42:06,159
at the screen

2499
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,679
can you make that out okay there you go

2500
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:11,280
you see that

2501
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:13,760
um sort of yeah there's a cup can i

2502
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:14,639
describe this at all

2503
01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:18,320
no no you are not going to do that

2504
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:20,080
i can't read what you're showing me but

2505
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:21,840
i can see those okay

2506
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:25,600
uh that's identification from an

2507
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:28,800
agency that was sent to me

2508
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:32,560
and they reached out and wanted

2509
01:42:39,189 --> 01:42:35,760
to have a conversation with me about

2510
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:39,199
disclosure and if i would uh

2511
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:43,440
uh get back and and and speak and i said

2512
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,560
no and

2513
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,400
i'm not interested you did the same

2514
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:50,239
thing sam harrison yeah i did the very

2515
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:51,040
same thing

2516
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:54,639
and uh and and that was sent to me for

2517
01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:57,679
for proof of of id and it's it was

2518
01:43:02,629 --> 01:42:59,360
pretty intimidating

2519
01:43:04,070 --> 01:43:02,639
and uh but i said no and if so

2520
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:04,080
can you just explain a little more like

2521
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:06,320
what what did he exactly say to you

2522
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:09,600
uh just what i just said it was not

2523
01:43:17,109 --> 01:43:13,520
nothing no more no less this is me

2524
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:17,119
this is who i am this is who i represent

2525
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:20,000
would you like to give us a call and

2526
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:21,840
have a conversation

2527
01:43:28,310 --> 01:43:25,360
and help with disclosure help

2528
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:28,320
with disclosure and i said no now let's

2529
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:30,000
let's back up a step here

2530
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:34,480
um you and i

2531
01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:38,320
um have shared information and

2532
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:41,440
and and stuff that needs to remain

2533
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:44,080
because if it goes out into the public

2534
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:46,480
and it's wrong

2535
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:48,560
it that's not cool there's that part of

2536
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:50,239
it and the other thing is

2537
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:52,000
you don't know what's real and what's

2538
01:43:56,870 --> 01:43:53,440
not

2539
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:56,880
and how much of that right right

2540
01:44:00,550 --> 01:43:58,480
that's right you should see richard

2541
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:00,560
laugh uh right there

2542
01:44:06,550 --> 01:44:03,760
how much of that happens to you you know

2543
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:06,560
where you're you're you're given

2544
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:07,920
something

2545
01:44:11,669 --> 01:44:09,520
you don't want to tease the public oh

2546
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:11,679
i'm sitting you can't do that but you

2547
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:13,360
certainly have to

2548
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:17,600
somehow try to vet it or wait to see

2549
01:44:23,669 --> 01:44:21,280
if it you know if it resolves itself

2550
01:44:24,950 --> 01:44:23,679
many times it's happened to me many

2551
01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:24,960
times

2552
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:29,440
and i'm always cautious i'm always

2553
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:31,199
and a lot of the things and i thank god

2554
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,800
in many cases i didn't

2555
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:34,320
jump the gun on some of these because

2556
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:36,480
they turned out to be complete nonsense

2557
01:44:39,669 --> 01:44:38,719
many times i've been talking over 15

2558
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:39,679
years or more

2559
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:43,119
for me it's been a long time and um

2560
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,239
sometimes someone will try to

2561
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:49,760
you know in um indicate that this is

2562
01:44:52,310 --> 01:44:50,400
just

2563
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:52,320
explosive information in one way or

2564
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:54,000
another

2565
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:57,440
and um and in fact i remember one this

2566
01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:59,280
is over a decade ago it was like some

2567
01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:00,480
kind of

2568
01:45:06,470 --> 01:45:04,560
like an invasion scenario stockpiling

2569
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:06,480
for an alien presence and this type of

2570
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:08,480
thing and it was supposedly a military

2571
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:10,560
document

2572
01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:14,239
and um it looked it was nicely put

2573
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:15,920
together and i thought god this i hope

2574
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:16,960
this isn't true

2575
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:20,159
but the date came and went nothing

2576
01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:22,880
and it's just always like that and i

2577
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:23,760
just thought

2578
01:45:28,709 --> 01:45:26,159
i'm glad i didn't didn't mention that

2579
01:45:30,790 --> 01:45:28,719
but that that's happened

2580
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:30,800
probably at least 10 15 times that i can

2581
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:32,480
think of where

2582
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:35,600
i just held back and i'm always glad

2583
01:45:41,109 --> 01:45:38,080
and eventually look i'll everything that

2584
01:45:45,109 --> 01:45:41,119
i think is legitimate i put out there

2585
01:45:49,270 --> 01:45:45,119
but um yeah i usually wait

2586
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:49,280
now is there in in your eyes

2587
01:45:55,669 --> 01:45:52,560
is is there a possibility richard that

2588
01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:55,679
not only with this report but the way

2589
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:56,239
that

2590
01:46:00,149 --> 01:45:58,080
everything has been handled in the last

2591
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:00,159
four or five years

2592
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:03,440
that this could be could we

2593
01:46:08,149 --> 01:46:06,480
are we being played you know and i know

2594
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:08,159
you've thought about this i mean is it

2595
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:09,119
yeah yeah but the question

2596
01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:10,800
the question is like played in what

2597
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:12,320
capacity for what that's

2598
01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:15,280
that's what's the game what's the game

2599
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:15,840
you know

2600
01:46:18,870 --> 01:46:17,760
i i don't like i don't like to speculate

2601
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:18,880
about being played

2602
01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,320
as a knee-jerk a lot of people do this

2603
01:46:24,950 --> 01:46:22,000
as a knee-jerk reflex

2604
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:24,960
thing they'll be like dis info because

2605
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:25,440
their

2606
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:26,880
first instinct is to assume the

2607
01:46:31,669 --> 01:46:29,119
government's lying always which is a

2608
01:46:33,189 --> 01:46:31,679
good instinct it's a good instinct to

2609
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:33,199
say it isn't a good instinct

2610
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:35,440
but but i don't want to go there if

2611
01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:37,920
there's no plan

2612
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:39,600
so what is the plan that some people

2613
01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:41,199
think the plan is to scare the public

2614
01:46:43,350 --> 01:46:42,000
and to

2615
01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:43,360
spend trillions of dollars on a new

2616
01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:45,040
space force maybe that's it

2617
01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:47,920
terrify the public that there are evil

2618
01:46:54,310 --> 01:46:50,159
aliens

2619
01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:54,320
and you then justify

2620
01:46:57,510 --> 01:46:55,840
that i don't i personally don't think

2621
01:47:00,790 --> 01:46:57,520
that's necessary to

2622
01:47:02,149 --> 01:47:00,800
drum up a truckload of money

2623
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:02,159
i mean we're already spending a trillion

2624
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:04,320
dollars a year on defense and we don't

2625
01:47:09,109 --> 01:47:06,159
and anything we don't have we just print

2626
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:09,119
up no problem just print up the money

2627
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:10,800
so i don't i don't really see that as

2628
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:12,880
the game what what's the

2629
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:16,080
what is the psyop what's the game

2630
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:19,440
i again i think in terms of factions

2631
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:20,960
i don't i don't think in terms of a

2632
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:23,119
monolithic conspiracy i think in terms

2633
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:24,719
of a power play

2634
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:27,520
among different groups well you okay one

2635
01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:29,920
of your favorite subjects

2636
01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:33,040
is false flags and evidence of this

2637
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:36,320
over the years and and you are very

2638
01:47:42,629 --> 01:47:39,520
compelling because your

2639
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:42,639
your evidence is so comprehensive and

2640
01:47:46,470 --> 01:47:44,080
you're able to lay it out there

2641
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:46,480
logically where we go okay well

2642
01:47:50,310 --> 01:47:49,199
crap and i guess anything is possible

2643
01:47:52,870 --> 01:47:50,320
and

2644
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:52,880
if you know gulf of tonkin you know you

2645
01:47:55,990 --> 01:47:53,520
could just

2646
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:56,000
just go yes and live in an era of false

2647
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:57,600
flags

2648
01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:59,360
they are they are you i don't want to

2649
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,719
say ubiquitous but they're

2650
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:03,360
very common and and they're becoming

2651
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:04,000
harder and harder

2652
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:05,040
to identify and more and more

2653
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:06,800
sophisticated there's not like the

2654
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,320
japanese and manchuria

2655
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:11,440
creating like us the false flags of the

2656
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:13,520
1930s and 40s

2657
01:48:16,709 --> 01:48:15,280
would never succeed today they're just

2658
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:16,719
way too primitive so they've gotten

2659
01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:21,750
but i'm glad you mentioned false flags

2660
01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:24,159
in the context of

2661
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:25,840
you know all the ufo information because

2662
01:48:31,910 --> 01:48:28,719
one we hear this a lot

2663
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:31,920
from certain people but i would say this

2664
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:33,280
there's very little about this that

2665
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,280
strikes me as a false flag one of the

2666
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:37,679
key things of any false flag

2667
01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:40,480
is you have to have a you need a

2668
01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:41,520
powerful

2669
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:44,840
media narrative that is

2670
01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:47,920
coordinated and

2671
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:51,760
that that also drives you to immediate

2672
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:54,960
trauma and action like think of the

2673
01:48:59,830 --> 01:48:57,440
aftermath of 9 11. that's classic

2674
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:59,840
right a whole nation just the whole

2675
01:49:03,830 --> 01:49:00,480
world

2676
01:49:06,629 --> 01:49:03,840
you are galvanized

2677
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:06,639
immediately into something that could

2678
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:08,400
never otherwise be justified which is

2679
01:49:10,070 --> 01:49:09,679
invade a couple of countries in this

2680
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:10,080
case

2681
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:12,159
and pass fascistic laws against the

2682
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:13,520
citizens of the u.s

2683
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:14,480
none of those could have happened

2684
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:16,960
without 9 11.

2685
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,360
the anthrax scare is a genuine i

2686
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:21,440
consider that a genuine false flag and

2687
01:49:25,189 --> 01:49:24,320
again you get the kind of media

2688
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:25,199
narrative

2689
01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:27,280
that's comprehensive and there have been

2690
01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:30,000
there have been false flags since then

2691
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:33,440
but this is not one of them i just don't

2692
01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:36,480
where is the coordinated media effort to

2693
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:38,239
scare the people

2694
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:39,360
you hear this all the time no one's

2695
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:42,880
scared no one is scared

2696
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,960
it's been three and a half years or more

2697
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:46,400
now since

2698
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:48,080
tt since the new york times first

2699
01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:51,280
articles came out on this

2700
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:53,040
i mean apart from a couple of random

2701
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:54,639
statements from elizondo and melon and

2702
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:56,880
maybe a few other people i don't know

2703
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:00,080
about this being a potential threat

2704
01:50:05,669 --> 01:50:03,840
which by the way is totally legit to say

2705
01:50:06,950 --> 01:50:05,679
where is that where is the scaram up

2706
01:50:09,430 --> 01:50:06,960
propaganda here

2707
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:09,440
i'm not hearing it from anyone and

2708
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:10,880
you're certainly not seeing it in the

2709
01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:12,000
public

2710
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:14,320
except hold on this is where you and i

2711
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:15,360
may part

2712
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:18,800
part part ways on this road

2713
01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:23,040
except that is the purpose in my eyes

2714
01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:26,080
with this report right our

2715
01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:29,840
our uh our defenses are are being

2716
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:33,360
uh uh breached we have

2717
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:35,840
no way to fight this off it is

2718
01:50:40,149 --> 01:50:38,000
technology beyond anything that we

2719
01:50:41,350 --> 01:50:40,159
have and this is actually all true

2720
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:41,360
statements right

2721
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:43,920
right right right so yeah i think that's

2722
01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:45,360
going to scare the crap out of the

2723
01:50:49,030 --> 01:50:47,280
military industrial

2724
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:49,040
well you got to wait till we read the

2725
01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:51,280
wording of the report

2726
01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:53,040
you know but you understand you

2727
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:55,119
understand you understand bureaucratic

2728
01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:57,599
you understand you understand my take

2729
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:58,320
though

2730
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:59,840
it's possible yeah it's absolutely

2731
01:51:02,870 --> 01:51:01,360
possible

2732
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:02,880
i would say i want to wait until i read

2733
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:04,560
the report to see if i agree with you

2734
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,440
but

2735
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:08,159
yeah you can determine from the language

2736
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:08,960
and

2737
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:11,040
maybe they i just i don't think that's

2738
01:51:16,070 --> 01:51:12,960
going to happen i'll be surprised

2739
01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:16,080
now what if uh

2740
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:19,119
when we talk about you know

2741
01:51:24,470 --> 01:51:22,080
a possible alien false flag here i'm not

2742
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:24,480
talking about project bluebeam i'm not

2743
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:26,560
talking about holographic

2744
01:51:34,629 --> 01:51:29,920
independence day star cruisers over

2745
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:34,639
new york city but what about a golf of

2746
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:38,480
tonkin uh situation where you've got

2747
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:40,400
uh a missile cruiser out in the middle

2748
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:41,760
of the ocean no witnesses

2749
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:44,480
nothing nobody there but it gets shot at

2750
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:46,000
by a ufo

2751
01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:49,840
right it gets shot at by uap and

2752
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:53,040
and this has now happened is that a

2753
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:54,159
scenario that

2754
01:52:00,629 --> 01:51:58,080
that is possible right now i mean i i

2755
01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:00,639
see i see differences with tonkin i mean

2756
01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:02,000
in the gulf of tonkin the united

2757
01:52:05,990 --> 01:52:04,320
states was doing electronic espionage

2758
01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:06,000
against the north vietnamese in north

2759
01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:08,080
vietnamese waters

2760
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:11,199
and they did a deliberate provocation

2761
01:52:14,149 --> 01:52:13,040
nsa was all over this of course we now

2762
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:14,159
know

2763
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,360
and they were provoking the north

2764
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:17,360
vietnamese who then retaliated with a

2765
01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:18,719
couple of peashooters

2766
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:21,199
on one of their little pt boats that

2767
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:23,280
bounced off the side of the uss maxwell

2768
01:52:25,990 --> 01:52:24,000
you know

2769
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:26,000
and then the u.s used that to justify a

2770
01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:27,199
massive

2771
01:52:31,830 --> 01:52:30,400
invasion vietnam right right right so to

2772
01:52:35,270 --> 01:52:31,840
use that analogy here with

2773
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:35,280
et's i mean i can't think you're you're

2774
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:36,320
implying that we were gonna

2775
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:38,880
we're gonna start a war with e.t over a

2776
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:39,360
pro

2777
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:44,080
well that's what i'm saying if there's

2778
01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:46,239
no witnesses and all we have is the

2779
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:48,800
reports on the other side

2780
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:52,400
the the fake alien invasion scenario

2781
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:53,199
that has been

2782
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:56,960
bandied about for the last 20 30 years

2783
01:52:59,990 --> 01:52:58,159
um

2784
01:53:01,830 --> 01:53:00,000
is it possible to have something like

2785
01:53:04,870 --> 01:53:01,840
that without witnesses

2786
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:04,880
false flags happened all the time i'll

2787
01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:05,520
say this

2788
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:07,840
if we are told that that is the case i

2789
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:09,520
would say that's a false flag

2790
01:53:13,189 --> 01:53:11,280
like i don't think that that would

2791
01:53:19,510 --> 01:53:13,199
happen

2792
01:53:22,709 --> 01:53:19,520
i would agree like that's that would be

2793
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:22,719
a complete false flag but

2794
01:53:27,510 --> 01:53:26,080
the thing is i just i don't

2795
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:27,520
well maybe i'm just not thinking

2796
01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:29,040
creatively enough i'm trying to think

2797
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:30,960
maybe it's not necessary

2798
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:33,040
i mean what would it be the purpose a

2799
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,080
global

2800
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:36,800
totalitarian system is already fast

2801
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:39,040
coming into place

2802
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:40,800
what other justifications do they need i

2803
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:42,080
mean they've

2804
01:53:45,189 --> 01:53:44,719
they're doing it it's already happening

2805
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:45,199
and

2806
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:48,639
um what is you know the real question i

2807
01:53:53,589 --> 01:53:51,280
would ask is what is to be gained

2808
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:53,599
from an elite group that would plant

2809
01:53:56,070 --> 01:53:54,880
such a false flag is what you're

2810
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:56,080
suggesting and i'm

2811
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:58,800
not sure that i can see what would be

2812
01:54:02,149 --> 01:53:59,440
gained

2813
01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:02,159
no i'm not suggesting i i'm not on that

2814
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:03,199
side of the fence

2815
01:54:06,629 --> 01:54:05,040
i'm not on that side of the bedroom

2816
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:06,639
you're just you're just spitballing

2817
01:54:10,070 --> 01:54:08,080
you're putting out

2818
01:54:12,149 --> 01:54:10,080
you know we're whiteboarding here you

2819
01:54:13,109 --> 01:54:12,159
know with that you know the reasons for

2820
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:13,119
this report

2821
01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:14,960
it's gonna go we're gonna have some

2822
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:16,159
reactions

2823
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:18,560
from the senate intelligence committee

2824
01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:21,119
and if it clearly states in that report

2825
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:22,239
richard that it

2826
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:25,599
is not us there's going to be some

2827
01:54:29,910 --> 01:54:26,880
reaction to that

2828
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:29,920
there just is and i don't know i'll bet

2829
01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:30,960
you they're not going to have any

2830
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:32,639
conclusions so they'll

2831
01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:35,199
they'll say well we know it isn't u.s

2832
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:35,760
tech

2833
01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:37,360
they might so they let's say they say

2834
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:40,159
that but

2835
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:41,280
i mean do you do you really think

2836
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:43,199
they're going to conclude we think it's

2837
01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:44,639
et or we think it's

2838
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:46,159
we think it's a chinese or the russian

2839
01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:47,440
like they're not they're not going to do

2840
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,920
that

2841
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:49,599
well you don't just leave it open

2842
01:54:52,790 --> 01:54:51,360
they'll say we need more information

2843
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:52,800
we don't have enough data you know

2844
01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:54,400
they'll do something like that okay

2845
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:56,560
richard you're sitting at you're sitting

2846
01:55:00,950 --> 01:54:57,440
at the big

2847
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:00,960
mahogany desk right senate chambers

2848
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:03,280
and you're sitting up and this report

2849
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:04,000
plops down

2850
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:07,040
and says it's not us you're going to

2851
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:07,920
look down and go

2852
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:12,159
okay well who is it then

2853
01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:14,960
if it's not an answer and then that'll

2854
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:18,159
be like more committees more research

2855
01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:20,560
follow-up more funding for the next uap

2856
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:21,840
task force

2857
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:23,679
can you imagine the headlines on the new

2858
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:26,080
york times uaps are

2859
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:30,239
not us right i mean

2860
01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:33,360
you know it's like mars attacks i'm

2861
01:55:37,430 --> 01:55:34,239
serious this

2862
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:37,440
is what other conclusion can you come to

2863
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:39,599
if you don't want to get into a world

2864
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:40,480
war with

2865
01:55:44,870 --> 01:55:42,960
with russia and china which i understand

2866
01:55:47,109 --> 01:55:44,880
the possibilities of that kind of uh

2867
01:55:49,669 --> 01:55:47,119
provocation in this report

2868
01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:49,679
but you've got to come to a conclusion

2869
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:50,239
and if

2870
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:53,599
one conclusion is it's not us what is

2871
01:55:57,270 --> 01:55:54,560
left on the table

2872
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:57,280
what is left you can't you can't say we

2873
01:56:01,990 --> 01:55:58,880
don't know

2874
01:56:05,830 --> 01:56:02,000
i look i totally agree like the obvious

2875
01:56:07,910 --> 01:56:05,840
conclusion is it's not our civilization

2876
01:56:09,270 --> 01:56:07,920
particularly you look at the tic tac i

2877
01:56:10,709 --> 01:56:09,280
know there's people out there who argue

2878
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:10,719
that the tic tac is

2879
01:56:16,510 --> 01:56:14,000
lockheed or black budget um i

2880
01:56:17,830 --> 01:56:16,520
i was sent a tic tac ufo report from

2881
01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:17,840
1892.

2882
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:20,159
i have it on my phone here it's on the

2883
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:22,960
uh from the website waterufo.net

2884
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:26,320
by the late uh carl feint who i knew

2885
01:56:30,470 --> 01:56:27,280
carl he was a

2886
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:30,480
great researcher and a good man and this

2887
01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:33,199
is off the coast of southern california

2888
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:36,159
18 it was reported in the newspaper of

2889
01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:38,159
the time

2890
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:40,000
of an object coming out of the water

2891
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:41,599
very clear description

2892
01:56:50,310 --> 01:56:46,639
this is only recently sent to me so um

2893
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:50,320
i mean i just think you know the

2894
01:56:55,510 --> 01:56:53,520
conclusion is clear that these objects

2895
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:55,520
in the vast majority of cases are not

2896
01:56:58,870 --> 01:56:57,599
ours and we've used the phrase tic tac

2897
01:57:00,310 --> 01:56:58,880
all the time but that's how different is

2898
01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:00,320
that from cigar-shaped

2899
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:03,040
or disc shaped object we've had these

2900
01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:04,880
descriptions going back

2901
01:57:07,910 --> 01:57:07,520
decades and decades and in the 1940s

2902
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:07,920
over

2903
01:57:11,109 --> 01:57:09,760
places like white sands proving ground

2904
01:57:13,669 --> 01:57:11,119
and other

2905
01:57:14,950 --> 01:57:13,679
los alamos national labs lonnie zamora

2906
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:14,960
socorro

2907
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:18,320
that in the 60s yes but in the 40s

2908
01:57:21,669 --> 01:57:20,320
these guys were tracking objects that

2909
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:21,679
were not supposed to be

2910
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:24,400
in that airspace and they were tracking

2911
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:26,239
them with high quality instrumentation

2912
01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:27,760
and the ceo lights that could

2913
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:29,119
that were way better than just

2914
01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:30,560
telescopes they had all kinds of

2915
01:57:34,070 --> 01:57:32,400
measuring instrumentation on them

2916
01:57:35,430 --> 01:57:34,080
measure the speed measure the altitude

2917
01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:35,440
the angle

2918
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:38,239
and they had accurate measurements of

2919
01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:40,880
cigar-shaped objects traveling at 18

2920
01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:44,480
000 miles per hour at high altitude

2921
01:57:48,709 --> 01:57:46,800
not meteors these are artificial objects

2922
01:57:51,830 --> 01:57:48,719
they got the diameters the whole thing

2923
01:57:54,629 --> 01:57:51,840
multiple times and when fraver described

2924
01:57:56,310 --> 01:57:54,639
the departure of the tic tac ufo and o4

2925
01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:56,320
when he said it was out of his his

2926
01:58:03,189 --> 01:57:59,599
complete vision within two seconds

2927
01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:03,199
um you know he had perfect visibility i

2928
01:58:07,350 --> 01:58:04,960
think he said of 10 miles and

2929
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:07,360
general visibility of 50. you're talking

2930
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:09,440
10 000 miles minimum

2931
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:11,280
so same speeds but they were being

2932
01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:13,760
recorded in the 40s

2933
01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:15,520
same types of objects and i've talked

2934
01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:17,199
many times about a report that i found

2935
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:18,080
personally

2936
01:58:22,709 --> 01:58:19,840
in the canadian national archives so i

2937
01:58:25,109 --> 01:58:22,719
was going through them many years ago

2938
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:25,119
i spent about a week there and i found

2939
01:58:29,510 --> 01:58:27,119
one report from 1936

2940
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:29,520
from the northwest territories of canada

2941
01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:31,040
written many years after the fact

2942
01:58:36,070 --> 01:58:34,400
by the witness but he was meticulous

2943
01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:36,080
talked about how he was doing aerial

2944
01:58:40,149 --> 01:58:38,400
mapping uh for the canadian government

2945
01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:40,159
back then

2946
01:58:43,990 --> 01:58:42,560
um with a cool pontoon plane that can

2947
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:44,000
land on water because there's infinite

2948
01:58:47,950 --> 01:58:46,080
numbers of lakes up there you go way up

2949
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:47,960
and he just was happen to look up in

2950
01:58:52,870 --> 01:58:49,760
1936

2951
01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:52,880
middle of nowhere and sees a slightly

2952
01:58:57,030 --> 01:58:55,119
elongated object

2953
01:58:58,470 --> 01:58:57,040
in a north-south configuration he says i

2954
01:59:00,149 --> 01:58:58,480
was shocked like it was just

2955
01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:00,159
perfect blue sky and this thing was

2956
01:59:02,709 --> 01:59:01,840
right there and he said i watched it

2957
01:59:04,870 --> 01:59:02,719
rotate

2958
01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:04,880
to an east-west configuration and

2959
01:59:09,750 --> 01:59:06,480
instantly take off silently

2960
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:09,760
gone like a bullet what do you do with

2961
01:59:15,510 --> 01:59:10,080
that

2962
01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:15,520
metal gray not white

2963
01:59:21,669 --> 01:59:18,880
it was identical in description to a tic

2964
01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:21,679
tac to what favor described yeah and uh

2965
01:59:26,149 --> 01:59:25,199
uh socorro just keeps coming back to

2966
01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:26,159
mind

2967
01:59:29,669 --> 01:59:27,679
uh with this and i was talking to cheryl

2968
01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:29,679
costa about this last night

2969
01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:32,480
should we consider you know egg-shaped

2970
01:59:36,790 --> 01:59:34,159
or oval-shaped

2971
01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:36,800
ufo reports that have been you know

2972
01:59:40,709 --> 01:59:38,480
thousands of them

2973
01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:40,719
um are we talking about the same thing

2974
01:59:43,669 --> 01:59:42,000
so let's take our break right here

2975
01:59:45,189 --> 01:59:43,679
richard this is fade to black

2976
01:59:46,709 --> 01:59:45,199
i'm your host jimmy church and when we

2977
01:59:50,310 --> 01:59:46,719
come back there's

2978
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:50,320
a fourth scenario here

2979
01:59:53,589 --> 01:59:52,800
that lou elizondo brought up last week

2980
01:59:55,109 --> 01:59:53,599
i'll discuss

2981
01:59:58,270 --> 01:59:55,119
all of that with richard when we come

2982
02:00:02,870 --> 01:59:58,280
back stay with us

2983
02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:04,310
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3050
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3051
02:02:55,750 --> 02:02:54,960
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3052
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3053
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3054
02:03:00,629 --> 02:02:59,119
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3055
02:03:02,390 --> 02:03:00,639
aren't sure about the government the

3056
02:03:05,109 --> 02:03:02,400
stock market their jobs

3057
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or their retirement savings our national

3058
02:03:07,750 --> 02:03:05,520
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3059
02:03:09,750 --> 02:03:07,760
is skyrocketing gold and other precious

3060
02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:09,760
metals are a defense measure against

3061
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:12,159
inflation and a stock market that might

3062
02:03:16,070 --> 02:03:14,000
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3063
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3064
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3065
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3066
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3067
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3068
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3069
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3070
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3071
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3072
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3073
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3074
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3075
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3076
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3077
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3078
02:04:07,830 --> 02:04:04,079
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3079
02:04:10,069 --> 02:04:07,840
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3080
02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:10,079
i couldn't stay sane without poor mr

3081
02:04:14,709 --> 02:04:11,440
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3082
02:04:15,669 --> 02:04:14,719
why fade to black because you never got

3083
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:15,679
that pony

3084
02:04:24,550 --> 02:04:22,229
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3085
02:04:39,580 --> 02:04:24,560
on the game changer radio network

3086
02:04:42,550 --> 02:04:39,590
and kgra the global radio alliance

3087
02:04:44,390 --> 02:04:42,560
[Music]

3088
02:04:46,470 --> 02:04:44,400
man i got to get back into the action

3089
02:04:49,350 --> 02:04:46,480
here you know i spend

3090
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:49,360
uh the segments this is fade to black

3091
02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:50,560
and real super church i guess tonight

3092
02:04:54,229 --> 02:04:51,520
richard dolan

3093
02:04:55,189 --> 02:04:54,239
i spend you know the segments over in

3094
02:04:56,709 --> 02:04:55,199
twitter

3095
02:04:58,709 --> 02:04:56,719
and i'm hanging out with everybody and

3096
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:58,719
then when i go to commercial break i

3097
02:05:05,270 --> 02:05:00,639
jump over to youtube

3098
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:08,229
uh you guys you guys are too much you

3099
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:09,360
guys are too much

3100
02:05:13,750 --> 02:05:12,480
i i i go over to youtube richard and i

3101
02:05:16,790 --> 02:05:13,760
just see who's

3102
02:05:20,629 --> 02:05:16,800
who's misbehaving and i just i chop chop

3103
02:05:26,470 --> 02:05:23,830
yeah my channel then i jump back over uh

3104
02:05:27,990 --> 02:05:26,480
to here real quick i run away do you do

3105
02:05:29,589 --> 02:05:28,000
all of your own you can't be your own

3106
02:05:31,589 --> 02:05:29,599
moderator oh no i've got

3107
02:05:33,430 --> 02:05:31,599
three or four people in there oh yeah no

3108
02:05:36,709 --> 02:05:33,440
it's it's out of control

3109
02:05:38,709 --> 02:05:36,719
it's uh it's fun though it's fun um

3110
02:05:39,990 --> 02:05:38,719
tell them all i said hey okay well they

3111
02:05:43,750 --> 02:05:40,000
can hear you

3112
02:05:46,950 --> 02:05:43,760
richard they're okay hold on

3113
02:05:51,109 --> 02:05:46,960
uh richard richard

3114
02:05:54,709 --> 02:05:51,119
says hey

3115
02:05:58,310 --> 02:05:54,719
let them know they might not otherwise

3116
02:05:59,589 --> 02:05:58,320
realize a greeting

3117
02:06:01,669 --> 02:05:59,599
to the good people in the youtube

3118
02:06:02,310 --> 02:06:01,679
channel oh man i love it i love it i

3119
02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:02,320
love it

3120
02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:04,800
we have the spreaker chat we have kgra

3121
02:06:09,189 --> 02:06:06,159
we have uh

3122
02:06:10,709 --> 02:06:09,199
uh twitter facebook and you know all of

3123
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:10,719
these chats going on at the same time

3124
02:06:15,430 --> 02:06:12,400
it's it's just so much fun

3125
02:06:16,870 --> 02:06:15,440
now okay the fourth scenario and the

3126
02:06:18,629 --> 02:06:16,880
reason why i jumped over to youtube

3127
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:18,639
because i mentioned the fourth scenario

3128
02:06:21,669 --> 02:06:19,599
before the break

3129
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:21,679
i wanted to see if somebody wanted to

3130
02:06:25,910 --> 02:06:22,800
take some guesses

3131
02:06:28,950 --> 02:06:25,920
as to what i was going to mention

3132
02:06:30,870 --> 02:06:28,960
um and everybody missed it so this is

3133
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:30,880
the fourth scenario

3134
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:35,840
out because i kept going you know e.t

3135
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:39,280
russia china us et russia china

3136
02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:41,840
and uh he said no there's uh there's a

3137
02:06:49,030 --> 02:06:45,520
fourth possibility here i said okay

3138
02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:49,040
he said they're from here

3139
02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:50,960
but they're not chinese they're not us

3140
02:06:55,189 --> 02:06:52,480
they're not

3141
02:06:57,270 --> 02:06:55,199
they're living and established in the

3142
02:07:00,149 --> 02:06:57,280
oceans

3143
02:07:01,109 --> 02:07:00,159
and i i stepped back and thought about

3144
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:01,119
the significance i

3145
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:03,599
pondered the significance right is it

3146
02:07:07,830 --> 02:07:04,880
just live on your show

3147
02:07:09,589 --> 02:07:07,840
yes yes yes now think about that for a

3148
02:07:13,189 --> 02:07:09,599
second

3149
02:07:16,709 --> 02:07:13,199
is is that an answer uh

3150
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:16,719
that would be not only talked about or

3151
02:07:21,669 --> 02:07:18,400
investigated but

3152
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:21,679
if we think about what has gone on with

3153
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:24,000
everything it's the united states navy

3154
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:26,800
it's out in the oceans um

3155
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:29,920
there have been reports of uh you know

3156
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:33,520
the ingress and egress uh out of the

3157
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:35,920
waters with these objects

3158
02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:39,280
and just maybe they're just

3159
02:07:44,709 --> 02:07:42,639
here right and it's not necessarily

3160
02:07:48,550 --> 02:07:44,719
interstellar arriving

3161
02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:48,560
in e.t that they're hiding

3162
02:07:54,629 --> 02:07:51,040
they're hiding in plain sight now is

3163
02:07:57,669 --> 02:07:54,639
that is that something to be considered

3164
02:07:59,510 --> 02:07:57,679
oh i i think yes absolutely but i would

3165
02:08:01,030 --> 02:07:59,520
tend to think of that as an e.t presence

3166
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:01,040
that just established

3167
02:08:07,030 --> 02:08:04,719
their base under the oceans

3168
02:08:07,750 --> 02:08:07,040
i can't i have a hard time imagining a

3169
02:08:10,550 --> 02:08:07,760
long

3170
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:10,560
term under the ocean presence of a

3171
02:08:15,910 --> 02:08:12,719
highly technologically advanced

3172
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:20,069
because i keep thinking

3173
02:08:23,510 --> 02:08:22,310
what what would you want to be doing

3174
02:08:26,470 --> 02:08:23,520
down there

3175
02:08:29,030 --> 02:08:26,480
like if you're on earth again so correct

3176
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:29,040
me if i'm being too pedestrian here

3177
02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:30,880
if you're on earth you would want to

3178
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:33,199
make use of the

3179
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:36,400
above ground environment if if if you

3180
02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:39,040
breathe the oxygen if you're a nitrogen

3181
02:08:42,149 --> 02:08:40,000
oxygen

3182
02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:42,159
right right breathe if you don't that's

3183
02:08:46,149 --> 02:08:43,760
a fair point so right don't

3184
02:08:48,550 --> 02:08:46,159
but i mean would you watch your own

3185
02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:48,560
environment that you're controlling

3186
02:08:52,870 --> 02:08:51,119
and you would do that under the water

3187
02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:52,880
with uh an enclosed system

3188
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:55,360
sunlight in total blackness you create

3189
02:09:02,629 --> 02:08:56,719
your own

3190
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:02,639
i i would think you would do it under

3191
02:09:08,709 --> 02:09:04,480
the ocean floor

3192
02:09:09,990 --> 02:09:08,719
you could create cavernous

3193
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:10,000
of course i don't know what the geology

3194
02:09:11,830 --> 02:09:11,440
is like down there like you know when

3195
02:09:13,350 --> 02:09:11,840
you dig

3196
02:09:15,669 --> 02:09:13,360
down into the earth it gets hotter and

3197
02:09:16,870 --> 02:09:15,679
hotter and hotter

3198
02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:16,880
but there's a lot of energy you could

3199
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:19,040
use geothermal energy or you could use

3200
02:09:22,709 --> 02:09:20,239
whatever your advanced

3201
02:09:23,589 --> 02:09:22,719
energy generation could be i mean you

3202
02:09:26,229 --> 02:09:23,599
could do it

3203
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:26,239
the us navy back in the 1960s was making

3204
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:28,800
plans or at least was entertaining plans

3205
02:09:40,550 --> 02:09:39,510
said something very interesting to me

3206
02:09:44,069 --> 02:09:40,560
once um

3207
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:44,079
and he said this if if the earth

3208
02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:46,719
you know something happens and and this

3209
02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:48,000
this occurs all the time

3210
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:51,199
uh throughout the universe where planets

3211
02:09:54,550 --> 02:09:51,520
are

3212
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:54,560
ejected from their solar system right

3213
02:09:58,229 --> 02:09:57,199
and i heard uh physicists say the other

3214
02:10:01,910 --> 02:09:58,239
day there may be

3215
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:01,920
more rogue planets out there than there

3216
02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:03,040
are planets

3217
02:10:07,830 --> 02:10:05,920
tied to stars right yeah that's a pretty

3218
02:10:11,350 --> 02:10:07,840
interesting concept

3219
02:10:15,669 --> 02:10:11,360
but that life on earth would not

3220
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:15,679
end because of a lack of sunlight

3221
02:10:19,589 --> 02:10:18,639
uh the earth's core is going to generate

3222
02:10:23,030 --> 02:10:19,599
heat

3223
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:23,040
and and we have life that doesn't

3224
02:10:27,430 --> 02:10:25,840
ever see sunlight deep in in in the

3225
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:27,440
darkness of the oceans

3226
02:10:30,790 --> 02:10:30,239
and that life will continue humans won't

3227
02:10:33,830 --> 02:10:30,800
right

3228
02:10:36,310 --> 02:10:33,840
we're done you know that part of but uh

3229
02:10:37,830 --> 02:10:36,320
life will continue if the earth spins

3230
02:10:40,229 --> 02:10:37,840
off into space particularly

3231
02:10:41,589 --> 02:10:40,239
advanced life unless unless advanced

3232
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:41,599
life can adapt

3233
02:10:45,189 --> 02:10:44,800
down there somehow without without the

3234
02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:45,199
sun

3235
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:47,119
well you would have to be an advanced

3236
02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:48,960
life first

3237
02:10:52,629 --> 02:10:51,599
then you live exactly right you're not

3238
02:10:56,390 --> 02:10:52,639
there is uh

3239
02:10:57,030 --> 02:10:56,400
uh something to consider here if there

3240
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:57,040
is a

3241
02:11:04,069 --> 02:11:00,960
if there is life in the oceans of europa

3242
02:11:05,669 --> 02:11:04,079
right okay and and there's lots of

3243
02:11:07,750 --> 02:11:05,679
conversation about this

3244
02:11:09,589 --> 02:11:07,760
right now it could be quite possible

3245
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:09,599
right but you know what it won't be

3246
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:10,400
advanced

3247
02:11:17,350 --> 02:11:13,760
you want me to tell you why please no

3248
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:17,360
fire all right you need to yeah i agree

3249
02:11:20,229 --> 02:11:17,840
i mean

3250
02:11:22,470 --> 02:11:20,239
you need fire i'm imagining right if you

3251
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:22,480
want to take things to the next level

3252
02:11:29,350 --> 02:11:26,079
you need fire right

3253
02:11:31,990 --> 02:11:29,360
i'll agree with you octopus

3254
02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:32,000
octopi very smart but they can't light a

3255
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:32,960
match

3256
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:35,840
right so they don't have that capability

3257
02:11:48,229 --> 02:11:44,470
you would have to be advanced before you

3258
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:48,239
enter the ocean i would i would tend to

3259
02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:49,679
agree

3260
02:11:55,750 --> 02:11:54,159
but anyway back to what louise elizondo

3261
02:11:58,069 --> 02:11:55,760
was saying to you then

3262
02:12:01,270 --> 02:11:58,079
it isn't war right does he have

3263
02:12:06,069 --> 02:12:01,280
knowledge is there a reason for him

3264
02:12:07,750 --> 02:12:06,079
to yes right i'll bet he does i

3265
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:07,760
i'm not speaking from my own knowledge

3266
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:09,520
of this um

3267
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:12,880
i've i have talked with him but

3268
02:12:16,950 --> 02:12:15,840
i don't know this but it's very obvious

3269
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:16,960
that man knows

3270
02:12:20,229 --> 02:12:18,960
much more than what he says publicly

3271
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:20,239
that's obvious uh

3272
02:12:26,149 --> 02:12:23,360
i know that uh uh you have uh

3273
02:12:27,270 --> 02:12:26,159
uh asked this of him i certainly did um

3274
02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:27,280
and i said okay

3275
02:12:32,629 --> 02:12:30,880
lou how many

3276
02:12:34,310 --> 02:12:32,639
how many pictures how many videos have

3277
02:12:37,589 --> 02:12:34,320
you seen of

3278
02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:37,599
actual ufos e.t

3279
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:41,280
little green men and you know he goes to

3280
02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:41,599
the

3281
02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:44,400
nda card first right i you know i've got

3282
02:12:50,470 --> 02:12:46,560
my security clearance but

3283
02:12:54,470 --> 02:12:50,480
i've seen a lot right that's

3284
02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:54,480
and um with uh what he's referring to

3285
02:12:58,550 --> 02:12:56,719
versus what has been leaked and gone

3286
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:58,560
into the public and certainly

3287
02:13:01,830 --> 02:13:01,199
i would put the tic tac in that category

3288
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:01,840
or

3289
02:13:06,950 --> 02:13:05,280
jeremy's flying toasters video um

3290
02:13:08,790 --> 02:13:06,960
i will put that into that category

3291
02:13:09,750 --> 02:13:08,800
that's nothing definitive that's nothing

3292
02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:09,760
that's gonna

3293
02:13:14,950 --> 02:13:13,520
you know rewrite history but that's not

3294
02:13:16,870 --> 02:13:14,960
everything that the united states

3295
02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:16,880
government has it's it's an impossible

3296
02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:17,520
thought they

3297
02:13:20,950 --> 02:13:20,400
they are sitting on video and photograph

3298
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:20,960
evidence

3299
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:24,480
that is not only definitive but would uh

3300
02:13:27,830 --> 02:13:26,239
uh change the course of history i don't

3301
02:13:28,950 --> 02:13:27,840
think there's a question for decades and

3302
02:13:31,109 --> 02:13:28,960
decades and decades

3303
02:13:32,149 --> 02:13:31,119
right back in the 60s and 50s and 40s

3304
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:32,159
they've had

3305
02:13:38,709 --> 02:13:35,920
excellent video back in i think was 1960

3306
02:13:40,709 --> 02:13:38,719
early 60s during the launch of it i

3307
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:40,719
think it was a titan missile

3308
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:44,320
vandenberg uh was it vandenberg i

3309
02:13:48,550 --> 02:13:46,159
thought it was in new mexico but

3310
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:48,560
in any case probably this actually

3311
02:13:51,910 --> 02:13:49,920
happened multiple times and actually

3312
02:13:55,669 --> 02:13:51,920
even in the 40s this i know

3313
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:58,870
testing this is a 1940 or 49

3314
02:14:03,189 --> 02:14:01,040
navy missile test i was just looking at

3315
02:14:05,109 --> 02:14:03,199
this recently that's why i know

3316
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:05,119
and it achieved it had just achieved the

3317
02:14:08,310 --> 02:14:07,520
missile at a speed of about 1300 miles

3318
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:08,320
per hour

3319
02:14:12,149 --> 02:14:10,800
which at that time was pretty good we're

3320
02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:12,159
talking late 1940s

3321
02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:13,920
u.s navy missile tests in white sands

3322
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:15,520
and a

3323
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:22,390
circled the missile one circle through

3324
02:14:26,310 --> 02:14:24,840
the exhaust of the missile and then they

3325
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:26,320
rejoined

3326
02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:28,320
and took off and i can't remember in

3327
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:30,079
this case if the missile crashed or not

3328
02:14:34,629 --> 02:14:31,520
some of them have crashed

3329
02:14:37,510 --> 02:14:34,639
others did not but they got it on film

3330
02:14:37,990 --> 02:14:37,520
and then the film was confiscated gone

3331
02:14:41,270 --> 02:14:38,000
happens

3332
02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:41,280
all the time so they've had they've had

3333
02:14:44,950 --> 02:14:44,320
good film quality going back 70 years or

3334
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:44,960
more

3335
02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:48,159
now the uh the trepang

3336
02:14:54,629 --> 02:14:51,840
photographs uh were were part of

3337
02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:54,639
internet chatter over the last week or

3338
02:14:58,870 --> 02:14:55,760
so

3339
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:58,880
in in connection with the the uap task

3340
02:15:02,470 --> 02:15:00,400
force report

3341
02:15:04,390 --> 02:15:02,480
and what may or may not be going on in

3342
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:04,400
the the oceans out there we're talking

3343
02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:05,760
about evidence

3344
02:15:09,589 --> 02:15:08,239
and then those photographs surfaced

3345
02:15:14,310 --> 02:15:09,599
again

3346
02:15:17,430 --> 02:15:14,320
um is is this going back to

3347
02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:17,440
uh what we are talking about it's the

3348
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:20,000
oceans it's the navy it's what has been

3349
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:23,040
photographed what has been witnessed um

3350
02:15:26,390 --> 02:15:24,560
and when you look at the trope

3351
02:15:29,430 --> 02:15:26,400
photographs one of them

3352
02:15:30,709 --> 02:15:29,440
looks pretty triangular-ish to me the

3353
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:30,719
other ones don't they look more

3354
02:15:34,629 --> 02:15:32,079
cigar-shaped

3355
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:34,639
but um clearly something is coming out

3356
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:37,360
of the water in those photographs

3357
02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:40,480
yeah i'm looking at them here yeah is

3358
02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:43,760
is this something that uh is is just

3359
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:50,390
of everything that we're talking about

3360
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:53,599
i guess so i i've look i haven't

3361
02:15:55,990 --> 02:15:54,880
i haven't really dove in and

3362
02:15:57,430 --> 02:15:56,000
investigated this so i don't want to

3363
02:16:01,750 --> 02:15:57,440
make a

3364
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:01,760
an un uh studied statement about it

3365
02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:05,520
but yeah they're quite fascinating

3366
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:06,639
i don't know i don't know what else to

3367
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:08,560
say about it right right

3368
02:16:13,510 --> 02:16:11,920
um things are coming out though fast at

3369
02:16:16,550 --> 02:16:13,520
a rate that

3370
02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:16,560
had not existed five years ago

3371
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:19,199
so i think we can expect more of that

3372
02:16:23,830 --> 02:16:21,280
and i think you know that might be

3373
02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:23,840
we we might have just hit a kind of

3374
02:16:30,870 --> 02:16:27,119
ongoing acceleration phase of

3375
02:16:34,150 --> 02:16:30,880
where enough is out that other people

3376
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:34,160
are continually excuse me continually

3377
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,000
dripping out more information and it

3378
02:16:42,150 --> 02:16:39,599
maybe this will be the avalanche effect

3379
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:42,160
that i wondered about over a decade ago

3380
02:16:45,349 --> 02:16:44,719
what did you yeah what did you make of

3381
02:16:51,349 --> 02:16:45,359
uh

3382
02:16:52,150 --> 02:16:51,359
got those questions thrown at her in the

3383
02:16:55,429 --> 02:16:52,160
press

3384
02:16:56,870 --> 02:16:55,439
room at the white house about the uap

3385
02:17:00,309 --> 02:16:56,880
task force report

3386
02:17:02,629 --> 02:17:00,319
and an alien or et connection to it and

3387
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:02,639
she just deflected i didn't remember oh

3388
02:17:07,990 --> 02:17:04,960
she said she flipped open the three-ring

3389
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:08,000
binder she had a prepared statement oh

3390
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:09,679
well tell me because i don't remember

3391
02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:10,719
this so i don't know this

3392
02:17:13,990 --> 02:17:12,880
okay well i'm gonna say just really

3393
02:17:17,990 --> 02:17:14,000
briefly uh

3394
02:17:21,349 --> 02:17:18,000
she went from a slight smirk on her face

3395
02:17:24,389 --> 02:17:21,359
uh the reporter then asked the question

3396
02:17:26,070 --> 02:17:24,399
a second time and i think she was

3397
02:17:28,070 --> 02:17:26,080
standing on the side of

3398
02:17:30,950 --> 02:17:28,080
the podium at that point like leaning on

3399
02:17:32,870 --> 02:17:30,960
it and she smirked and then

3400
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:32,880
the question happened the second time

3401
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:34,960
she went back behind the podium flipped

3402
02:17:39,349 --> 02:17:36,800
open the three-ring binder

3403
02:17:41,190 --> 02:17:39,359
and had her prepared statement about the

3404
02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:41,200
uap task force

3405
02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:43,120
and what she's what she said i'm

3406
02:17:48,070 --> 02:17:45,040
paraphrasing of course

3407
02:17:49,429 --> 02:17:48,080
um what she said was that uh the

3408
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:49,439
president

3409
02:17:56,790 --> 02:17:52,880
uh was counting on uh

3410
02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:56,800
the odni to prepare

3411
02:18:01,990 --> 02:18:00,080
uh an effective report as requested

3412
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:02,000
by the senate intelligence committee

3413
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:05,040
that was part of the intelligence budget

3414
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:08,399
uh from 2020 and they that they were

3415
02:18:13,910 --> 02:18:10,399
tasked to do this job

3416
02:18:17,030 --> 02:18:13,920
and the president was counting on them

3417
02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:17,040
to deliver the report in a timely manner

3418
02:18:20,549 --> 02:18:19,920
now um that's pretty boilerplate

3419
02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:20,559
standard

3420
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:22,160
it was there's nothing she's not going

3421
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:24,000
out on a limb there no no no

3422
02:18:30,629 --> 02:18:27,760
but what was interesting uh uh

3423
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:30,639
before she stepped around to the podium

3424
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:30,960
she

3425
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:34,479
said ufos

3426
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:37,439
now i i saw this live richard right and

3427
02:18:43,349 --> 02:18:40,319
i stepped back and i thought to myself

3428
02:18:46,950 --> 02:18:43,359
she went there right has

3429
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:46,960
ufo ever been mentioned

3430
02:18:50,830 --> 02:18:49,200
publicly from the white house like that

3431
02:18:53,509 --> 02:18:50,840
in that you know in this kind of

3432
02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:53,519
situation so going back to your point

3433
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:57,359
we are at a point in history where

3434
02:19:01,669 --> 02:18:59,599
this subject is now being discussed

3435
02:19:02,469 --> 02:19:01,679
openly in the white house press briefing

3436
02:19:05,509 --> 02:19:02,479
room

3437
02:19:09,030 --> 02:19:05,519
by reporters and the president

3438
02:19:13,509 --> 02:19:09,040
is aware of this report that's that's

3439
02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:16,709
i believe that and this is not a new

3440
02:19:21,110 --> 02:19:18,000
belief i've been

3441
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:21,120
predicting this for maybe close to 20

3442
02:19:26,469 --> 02:19:23,040
years now

3443
02:19:28,469 --> 02:19:26,479
that not everything

3444
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:28,479
comes from as a top down initiative so

3445
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,240
not everything is

3446
02:19:34,309 --> 02:19:32,559
as is completely controlled from the top

3447
02:19:35,750 --> 02:19:34,319
there are pressures coming from below

3448
02:19:39,910 --> 02:19:35,760
from the people

3449
02:19:43,030 --> 02:19:39,920
and i have believed for 20 years or more

3450
02:19:45,509 --> 02:19:43,040
that we're in an era in which tremendous

3451
02:19:47,830 --> 02:19:45,519
amounts of change are happening

3452
02:19:49,590 --> 02:19:47,840
at the societal level a lot of that's

3453
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:49,600
manipulated from the top it's absolutely

3454
02:19:53,429 --> 02:19:50,399
true but there

3455
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:53,439
is definitely motion coming from below

3456
02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:56,080
and has always come from below on ufos

3457
02:19:59,590 --> 02:19:57,680
always has been

3458
02:20:00,870 --> 02:19:59,600
back in the 1980s and 90s before there

3459
02:20:03,190 --> 02:20:00,880
was an internet

3460
02:20:04,790 --> 02:20:03,200
it's still there's a lot of public

3461
02:20:06,469 --> 02:20:04,800
interest in this subject

3462
02:20:08,790 --> 02:20:06,479
except back then it didn't get there was

3463
02:20:10,950 --> 02:20:08,800
not an opportunity for people to

3464
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:10,960
express it as much then once we had a

3465
02:20:16,710 --> 02:20:12,640
web

3466
02:20:17,429 --> 02:20:16,720
that all changed and and i really think

3467
02:20:20,230 --> 02:20:17,439
it's been

3468
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:20,240
several decades but it has had an effect

3469
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:22,240
on mass culture and

3470
02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:25,680
that is why i think we've been seeing

3471
02:20:30,710 --> 02:20:28,399
a lot of these like efforts like what

3472
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:30,720
ttsa did

3473
02:20:34,550 --> 02:20:32,800
probably could not have succeeded in the

3474
02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:34,560
pre-internet era

3475
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:36,240
in fact it there was nothing like it in

3476
02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:37,680
the pre-internet era so that probably

3477
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:39,040
proves it

3478
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:44,319
and and i just i guess i believe that

3479
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:45,680
that what we're seeing is the

3480
02:20:51,910 --> 02:20:48,479
establishment is reacting

3481
02:20:53,590 --> 02:20:51,920
to genuine pressures from the people

3482
02:20:55,190 --> 02:20:53,600
on the matter of ufos i guess that's

3483
02:20:56,790 --> 02:20:55,200
what i'm saying there's one

3484
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:56,800
they're playing they're playing defense

3485
02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:58,240
there was uh

3486
02:21:01,590 --> 02:21:00,560
you had a lot of scenarios in 80 after

3487
02:21:04,150 --> 02:21:01,600
disclosure

3488
02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:04,160
um and we've discussed this a lot over

3489
02:21:10,150 --> 02:21:05,680
the years but

3490
02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:10,160
there was one angle that you presented

3491
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:13,680
there that i almost see

3492
02:21:17,910 --> 02:21:15,760
um i'm not talking about a profit

3493
02:21:18,550 --> 02:21:17,920
situation like you were predicting the

3494
02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:18,560
future

3495
02:21:23,190 --> 02:21:22,000
and but it kind of played out the way

3496
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:23,200
that you presented it

3497
02:21:27,750 --> 02:21:26,399
in the book which is disclosure may

3498
02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:27,760
happen

3499
02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:30,960
with leaks and something that

3500
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:34,080
is out of the government's control and

3501
02:21:40,550 --> 02:21:36,720
they are going to have to respond to it

3502
02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:40,560
and disclosure would uh would would

3503
02:21:47,190 --> 02:21:44,160
uh be exposed uh because of this

3504
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:47,200
and it by and large if you go back to

3505
02:21:50,950 --> 02:21:48,960
the gimbal and the tic tac and the way

3506
02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:50,960
that that was leaked and it you know

3507
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:53,920
and right and the response of the

3508
02:21:58,070 --> 02:21:54,560
pentagon

3509
02:22:01,670 --> 02:21:58,080
and how how all of the it was

3510
02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:01,680
it appears that that scenario that you

3511
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:02,560
presented

3512
02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:05,760
played out yeah maybe it did the only

3513
02:22:09,429 --> 02:22:07,200
difference being that

3514
02:22:10,710 --> 02:22:09,439
when we wrote it out or or played it out

3515
02:22:11,510 --> 02:22:10,720
in our minds we were thinking it would

3516
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:11,520
be

3517
02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:14,160
a much shorter timeline for everything

3518
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:14,720
to happen

3519
02:22:17,910 --> 02:22:16,720
and i don't think i was expecting many

3520
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:17,920
years

3521
02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:20,560
would pass but actually it's true i mean

3522
02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:21,760
other than this

3523
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:25,520
the speed um yeah i think

3524
02:22:29,990 --> 02:22:28,319
and it's a it's a sign of pressure from

3525
02:22:31,590 --> 02:22:30,000
below

3526
02:22:33,030 --> 02:22:31,600
i mean how did how did those videos come

3527
02:22:35,030 --> 02:22:33,040
out that was that was alessandro and

3528
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:35,040
melon working together

3529
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:38,319
to very carefully with

3530
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:40,240
from what i understand anyway allies

3531
02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:41,680
working with them

3532
02:22:44,870 --> 02:22:43,920
to get those videos released and they

3533
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:44,880
went kind of on the

3534
02:22:50,309 --> 02:22:47,200
on the download talking about it as ufos

3535
02:22:53,429 --> 02:22:50,319
they didn't talk about them as ufos

3536
02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:53,439
and they were able to get them out those

3537
02:22:56,950 --> 02:22:54,240
three videos

3538
02:22:58,550 --> 02:22:56,960
at least partially and that was a coup

3539
02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:58,560
that was a real score

3540
02:23:02,630 --> 02:22:59,840
and it doesn't mean that all three of

3541
02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,640
those videos demonstrate genuine ufo

3542
02:23:06,309 --> 02:23:04,479
craft and in fact

3543
02:23:08,469 --> 02:23:06,319
i only think really one of them probably

3544
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:08,479
does that the tic tac one

3545
02:23:13,110 --> 02:23:11,760
oh i i would say the go fast you do yeah

3546
02:23:14,389 --> 02:23:13,120
yeah i go back and forth in that

3547
02:23:17,429 --> 02:23:14,399
sometimes i don't think that

3548
02:23:20,070 --> 02:23:17,439
it is but they're all interesting

3549
02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:20,080
they're all interesting and you know

3550
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:22,560
elizondo and melon really got those out

3551
02:23:29,349 --> 02:23:26,240
so so in in in light of that

3552
02:23:29,750 --> 02:23:29,359
you know the way that uh you presented

3553
02:23:36,950 --> 02:23:29,760
this

3554
02:23:39,990 --> 02:23:36,960
seven

3555
02:23:41,670 --> 02:23:40,000
eight years ago you know a document leak

3556
02:23:44,469 --> 02:23:41,680
a wikileaks style

3557
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:44,479
you know a possible hack and and boom

3558
02:23:48,230 --> 02:23:46,000
and everything comes out and

3559
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:48,240
and and the the government's hand is now

3560
02:23:50,630 --> 02:23:49,120
forced

3561
02:23:52,550 --> 02:23:50,640
and they're gonna have and we we talked

3562
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:52,560
about this specifically

3563
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:55,920
and but how did you follow up

3564
02:24:02,309 --> 02:23:59,120
what was the aftermath of

3565
02:24:05,349 --> 02:24:02,319
of your scenario do you anticipate

3566
02:24:07,349 --> 02:24:05,359
it to play out like this uh in the next

3567
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:07,359
couple of weeks after this report

3568
02:24:11,270 --> 02:24:09,280
well the biggest difference between when

3569
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:11,280
we wrote that book in 2010

3570
02:24:16,630 --> 02:24:14,479
and now is that i mean the mainstream

3571
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:16,640
media was just as controlled

3572
02:24:20,309 --> 02:24:19,359
than basically as it is now but what was

3573
02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:20,319
different is that

3574
02:24:24,389 --> 02:24:23,200
big tech wasn't quite the big tech that

3575
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:24,399
exists today

3576
02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:26,479
so you didn't have the dishonest

3577
02:24:31,510 --> 02:24:28,640
algorithms you didn't have

3578
02:24:33,349 --> 02:24:31,520
um youtube searches being completely

3579
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:33,359
obliterated and made useless you didn't

3580
02:24:36,950 --> 02:24:34,960
have google being

3581
02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:36,960
anywhere nearly as evil as they have

3582
02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:38,640
become or at least

3583
02:24:44,309 --> 02:24:42,000
overtly you didn't have the ham-fisted

3584
02:24:45,750 --> 02:24:44,319
censorship and you know facebook and

3585
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:45,760
twitter that we have today so

3586
02:24:51,349 --> 02:24:48,240
it was a different world in 2010 where

3587
02:24:53,750 --> 02:24:51,359
uh the internet actually felt free

3588
02:24:55,349 --> 02:24:53,760
to people on the left and on the right

3589
02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:55,359
it was free to everyone

3590
02:24:58,389 --> 02:24:57,920
and that's not the case anymore and so

3591
02:25:05,190 --> 02:24:58,399
you've got

3592
02:25:07,270 --> 02:25:05,200
over much of the internet that you have

3593
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:07,280
over the legacy establishment media so

3594
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:09,520
that's the difference now with today

3595
02:25:12,950 --> 02:25:11,359
and that will make a difference in terms

3596
02:25:16,150 --> 02:25:12,960
of the roll out of disclosure

3597
02:25:17,590 --> 02:25:16,160
what we imagined a decade ago was that

3598
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:17,600
something big would happen the

3599
02:25:20,150 --> 02:25:19,120
establishment media would drag their

3600
02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:20,160
heels

3601
02:25:25,349 --> 02:25:23,280
but that the alternative media which

3602
02:25:26,790 --> 02:25:25,359
really was alternative and powerful in

3603
02:25:28,950 --> 02:25:26,800
2010

3604
02:25:30,630 --> 02:25:28,960
we thought that would be the thing that

3605
02:25:32,469 --> 02:25:30,640
would drive it forward

3606
02:25:34,950 --> 02:25:32,479
and there is an alternative media still

3607
02:25:36,309 --> 02:25:34,960
but it's it's been kneecapped and

3608
02:25:38,230 --> 02:25:36,319
you can't find them as easily in the

3609
02:25:39,990 --> 02:25:38,240
algorithms and all of that so it's much

3610
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:40,000
more difficult now

3611
02:25:47,910 --> 02:25:45,910
i just don't know how it's going to work

3612
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:47,920
out i mean

3613
02:25:51,830 --> 02:25:50,640
i think there's a lot of control over

3614
02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:51,840
all of the media

3615
02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:54,880
it's not total control though control is

3616
02:26:02,630 --> 02:26:00,630
so i'm still hopeful that because i

3617
02:26:03,830 --> 02:26:02,640
believe in breaking the secrecy on this

3618
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:03,840
system

3619
02:26:08,230 --> 02:26:06,479
i think it's time do you think so boone

3620
02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:08,240
fed bs like you're five years old for

3621
02:26:12,230 --> 02:26:10,160
the rest of your life you know

3622
02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:12,240
it's time to time to grow up do you

3623
02:26:17,190 --> 02:26:13,760
think uh

3624
02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:17,200
the the coverage of not only coving the

3625
02:26:20,309 --> 02:26:17,920
pandemic

3626
02:26:21,190 --> 02:26:20,319
and and the economy and everything that

3627
02:26:24,630 --> 02:26:21,200
is

3628
02:26:28,230 --> 02:26:24,640
right now and certainly

3629
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:28,240
politics that that is softening the blow

3630
02:26:32,790 --> 02:26:31,120
of disclosure where this is not the

3631
02:26:35,910 --> 02:26:32,800
headline that it would be

3632
02:26:37,990 --> 02:26:35,920
in a non-pandemic year right i have

3633
02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:38,000
definitely wondered that

3634
02:26:42,790 --> 02:26:41,040
um because a lot of the ufo

3635
02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:42,800
news headlines that we've gotten over

3636
02:26:46,790 --> 02:26:45,120
the last several years

3637
02:26:48,630 --> 02:26:46,800
i think they would have been bombshells

3638
02:26:50,389 --> 02:26:48,640
in in prior years

3639
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:50,399
but i don't know if covid really is the

3640
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:52,960
the key uh factor here because

3641
02:27:00,150 --> 02:26:56,080
a lot of big headlines occurred in

3642
02:27:02,710 --> 02:27:00,160
2017 2018 2019

3643
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:02,720
big articles you know the the new york

3644
02:27:06,790 --> 02:27:04,560
times article on the uss roosevelt was

3645
02:27:09,190 --> 02:27:06,800
from the spring of 2019

3646
02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:09,200
before we had lou elizondo drops a

3647
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:11,520
bombshell on tucker carlson on may 31st

3648
02:27:14,469 --> 02:27:13,120
2019 saying yeah we've had crash

3649
02:27:16,710 --> 02:27:14,479
retrievals

3650
02:27:17,910 --> 02:27:16,720
no media follow-up none there was no

3651
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:17,920
covet

3652
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:21,439
i mean there's a hell of a statement so

3653
02:27:26,710 --> 02:27:23,600
i don't i and i attribute the lack of

3654
02:27:29,110 --> 02:27:26,720
follow-up to media control

3655
02:27:30,950 --> 02:27:29,120
because i think i i attribute it to the

3656
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:30,960
fact that the establishment

3657
02:27:34,469 --> 02:27:33,120
the true power elite still has

3658
02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:34,479
predominant control over the

3659
02:27:39,590 --> 02:27:36,399
establishment media

3660
02:27:42,830 --> 02:27:39,600
and they're they're still not

3661
02:27:44,150 --> 02:27:42,840
actively promoting this narrative of

3662
02:27:44,950 --> 02:27:44,160
ufos well if anything they're

3663
02:27:47,270 --> 02:27:44,960
downplaying it

3664
02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:47,280
i asked ralph blumenthal about that a

3665
02:27:52,309 --> 02:27:48,240
couple of weeks ago

3666
02:27:55,429 --> 02:27:52,319
oh and and i said ralph look man

3667
02:27:58,469 --> 02:27:55,439
in your last article with uh leslie

3668
02:27:59,750 --> 02:27:58,479
and you buried in that article down at

3669
02:28:03,030 --> 02:27:59,760
the bottom

3670
02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:03,040
eric davis says hey i i told the senate

3671
02:28:07,349 --> 02:28:06,240
we've got fl we've got flying saucers

3672
02:28:07,990 --> 02:28:07,359
right yeah that should have been the

3673
02:28:11,110 --> 02:28:08,000
leader

3674
02:28:11,990 --> 02:28:11,120
right and i said bro i said ralph isn't

3675
02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:12,000
isn't

3676
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:16,240
i is where's the responsible journalism

3677
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:19,920
there why aren't there hundreds of

3678
02:28:24,230 --> 02:28:21,520
journalists around the world

3679
02:28:24,950 --> 02:28:24,240
picking up on that paragraph and

3680
02:28:28,389 --> 02:28:24,960
knocking on

3681
02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:28,399
eric davis's front door where why isn't

3682
02:28:30,950 --> 02:28:29,040
that the

3683
02:28:32,710 --> 02:28:30,960
biggest headline in the history of

3684
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:32,720
mankind what did he say

3685
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:36,240
he said we buried it on purpose exactly

3686
02:28:40,309 --> 02:28:38,560
exactly that's what he said he said it

3687
02:28:42,469 --> 02:28:40,319
wasn't my editorial call

3688
02:28:44,389 --> 02:28:42,479
he had to he said if we would have put

3689
02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:44,399
that at the at the top of the article

3690
02:28:49,190 --> 02:28:46,560
then the article needs to be about

3691
02:28:50,389 --> 02:28:49,200
crash flying saucers you put it down at

3692
02:28:52,950 --> 02:28:50,399
the bottom

3693
02:28:54,630 --> 02:28:52,960
and the article is now not about crash

3694
02:28:56,710 --> 02:28:54,640
flying saucers

3695
02:28:58,710 --> 02:28:56,720
and he's also being a little cagey there

3696
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:58,720
because the fact is

3697
02:29:01,990 --> 02:29:00,560
he and leslie kane are both ufo

3698
02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:02,000
believers we all know it

3699
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:03,840
yep and we also know with that

3700
02:29:05,990 --> 02:29:05,280
particular article you're talking july

3701
02:29:10,150 --> 02:29:06,000
2020

3702
02:29:11,429 --> 02:29:10,160
yep they they had a lot of information

3703
02:29:12,309 --> 02:29:11,439
and they could not get that in that

3704
02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:12,319
article

3705
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:14,560
we can say this now they they were

3706
02:29:17,030 --> 02:29:16,000
really cagey about it when it happened

3707
02:29:17,830 --> 02:29:17,040
they didn't want to talk about it but

3708
02:29:20,790 --> 02:29:17,840
hell with it

3709
02:29:22,870 --> 02:29:20,800
that's the fact they had a lot of info

3710
02:29:24,309 --> 02:29:22,880
for that article and it did not get into

3711
02:29:25,510 --> 02:29:24,319
the new york times guess why do you

3712
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:25,520
think it was leslie and ralph

3713
02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:27,760
no their leadership of the new york

3714
02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:29,200
times

3715
02:29:32,389 --> 02:29:31,200
so the fact is what what that means to

3716
02:29:35,270 --> 02:29:32,399
me is that

3717
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:35,280
it's not that when when the articles

3718
02:29:39,830 --> 02:29:37,520
came out in 2017 and then 2019

3719
02:29:41,030 --> 02:29:39,840
that's not that the new york times had

3720
02:29:43,590 --> 02:29:41,040
some change of heart

3721
02:29:44,710 --> 02:29:43,600
no that's two journalists leslie kane

3722
02:29:47,429 --> 02:29:44,720
and ralph blumenthal who

3723
02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:47,439
fought to get those articles in there

3724
02:29:49,510 --> 02:29:48,640
and they still had to fight an

3725
02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:49,520
establishment

3726
02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:51,040
that made them put a lot of skeptical

3727
02:29:56,950 --> 02:29:53,680
nonsense in in all of those articles

3728
02:30:00,150 --> 02:29:56,960
that was not their desire

3729
02:30:01,990 --> 02:30:00,160
i'm certain of it so that's ralph being

3730
02:30:03,110 --> 02:30:02,000
very diplomatic saying to you yeah like

3731
02:30:04,870 --> 02:30:03,120
we can only

3732
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:04,880
only put so much into that without

3733
02:30:11,270 --> 02:30:07,200
getting our knuckles slapped

3734
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:11,280
i uh uh i asked ralph

3735
02:30:15,030 --> 02:30:12,960
and i you know i had to take the

3736
02:30:16,790 --> 02:30:15,040
opportunity to ask some very very

3737
02:30:18,389 --> 02:30:16,800
very direct questions and one of them

3738
02:30:21,349 --> 02:30:18,399
was this

3739
02:30:22,550 --> 02:30:21,359
you can't have a paragraph like that uh

3740
02:30:26,469 --> 02:30:22,560
in there

3741
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:26,479
without vetting the paragraph the quote

3742
02:30:31,349 --> 02:30:28,560
he said exactly i said well was it

3743
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:31,359
vetted he said of course it was

3744
02:30:35,030 --> 02:30:34,319
and i said well how do you vet a direct

3745
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:35,040
source

3746
02:30:40,150 --> 02:30:37,760
with us a statement like that you know

3747
02:30:42,389 --> 02:30:40,160
the source being eric this is not

3748
02:30:43,830 --> 02:30:42,399
you know this is not third hand right

3749
02:30:47,030 --> 02:30:43,840
this your source

3750
02:30:50,389 --> 02:30:47,040
is named right right there

3751
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:50,399
yeah um how do you vet that are you

3752
02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:51,520
going

3753
02:30:56,070 --> 02:30:54,640
uh to eric and saying where did

3754
02:30:57,429 --> 02:30:56,080
where did you get the information from

3755
02:30:59,349 --> 02:30:57,439
right right right right who are the

3756
02:31:01,030 --> 02:30:59,359
people you've had do you you spoke to

3757
02:31:03,590 --> 02:31:01,040
so are you going to ask me what ralph

3758
02:31:05,990 --> 02:31:03,600
said i would love to know

3759
02:31:07,270 --> 02:31:06,000
we're dying here he said of course he

3760
02:31:10,790 --> 02:31:07,280
answered the questions

3761
02:31:13,510 --> 02:31:10,800
that satisfied them to allow that

3762
02:31:14,150 --> 02:31:13,520
that quote to be in the article yeah and

3763
02:31:17,030 --> 02:31:14,160
that's that's

3764
02:31:18,070 --> 02:31:17,040
pretty scary that's pretty scary and i i

3765
02:31:21,030 --> 02:31:18,080
don't understand

3766
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:21,040
the lack of follow-up i mean uh richard

3767
02:31:25,750 --> 02:31:22,640
yes you do

3768
02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:25,760
times like with

3769
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:28,560
with any journal where is you know where

3770
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:29,200
is

3771
02:31:35,990 --> 02:31:33,280
rogoway

3772
02:31:37,830 --> 02:31:36,000
where's anybody out there that would

3773
02:31:39,830 --> 02:31:37,840
turn around or the washington post or

3774
02:31:41,590 --> 02:31:39,840
the examiner or the new york post

3775
02:31:43,030 --> 02:31:41,600
or the honest and open the washington

3776
02:31:45,429 --> 02:31:43,040
post is

3777
02:31:48,230 --> 02:31:45,439
their owner does cloud computing for the

3778
02:31:49,590 --> 02:31:48,240
three-letter agencies

3779
02:31:51,429 --> 02:31:49,600
come on you don't got to call me out

3780
02:31:53,990 --> 02:31:51,439
like that you know what i'm saying

3781
02:31:54,469 --> 02:31:54,000
there there's got to be some intrepid

3782
02:31:56,950 --> 02:31:54,479
gum

3783
02:31:57,990 --> 02:31:56,960
shoe to salt of the earth journalist

3784
02:32:00,309 --> 02:31:58,000
said it's going to go

3785
02:32:01,750 --> 02:32:00,319
wait a minute here the united states

3786
02:32:04,309 --> 02:32:01,760
government has crashed

3787
02:32:05,910 --> 02:32:04,319
flying saucers and this is there were

3788
02:32:08,630 --> 02:32:05,920
people in the ufo

3789
02:32:09,030 --> 02:32:08,640
like in researchers independent people

3790
02:32:11,349 --> 02:32:09,040
who have

3791
02:32:12,389 --> 02:32:11,359
like tiny little audiences they were

3792
02:32:17,349 --> 02:32:12,399
writing about it

3793
02:32:18,469 --> 02:32:17,359
but for large scale major media

3794
02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:18,479
you know you have to we have to look at

3795
02:32:23,429 --> 02:32:20,560
the specific ones and who owns these

3796
02:32:23,670 --> 02:32:23,439
organizations all comes down who owns

3797
02:32:27,030 --> 02:32:23,680
them

3798
02:32:29,510 --> 02:32:27,040
i would say so

3799
02:32:32,309 --> 02:32:29,520
that's what gives the answer so you

3800
02:32:36,469 --> 02:32:32,319
weren't surprised that there wasn't

3801
02:32:38,230 --> 02:32:36,479
uh uh investigation into that statement

3802
02:32:40,870 --> 02:32:38,240
and ten years ago i would have been

3803
02:32:42,389 --> 02:32:40,880
shocked that there wouldn't have been

3804
02:32:44,469 --> 02:32:42,399
ten years ago i would have i would have

3805
02:32:47,990 --> 02:32:44,479
absolutely expected

3806
02:32:49,750 --> 02:32:48,000
genuine follow-up yes but now no

3807
02:32:52,230 --> 02:32:49,760
i don't because i think that we're in a

3808
02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:52,240
it's a much more highly controlled major

3809
02:32:58,389 --> 02:32:53,840
media system

3810
02:33:05,590 --> 02:33:02,550
i have not directly

3811
02:33:07,429 --> 02:33:05,600
i have one individual that will go back

3812
02:33:09,110 --> 02:33:07,439
and forth with me

3813
02:33:10,710 --> 02:33:09,120
but i don't no davis does not want to

3814
02:33:14,630 --> 02:33:10,720
communicate with me

3815
02:33:15,590 --> 02:33:14,640
i'm told he likes me i like to believe

3816
02:33:17,590 --> 02:33:15,600
that

3817
02:33:19,429 --> 02:33:17,600
i have a lot of respect for eric davis i

3818
02:33:20,469 --> 02:33:19,439
you know i i no i don't communicate with

3819
02:33:22,710 --> 02:33:20,479
him i wish i did

3820
02:33:24,710 --> 02:33:22,720
i would like to i think i had one email

3821
02:33:26,389 --> 02:33:24,720
exchange with him a couple of years ago

3822
02:33:28,469 --> 02:33:26,399
and he was very open to coming on to

3823
02:33:31,349 --> 02:33:28,479
fade to black that was back then

3824
02:33:32,550 --> 02:33:31,359
uh yeah the thing now is like he's he's

3825
02:33:35,670 --> 02:33:32,560
in

3826
02:33:38,070 --> 02:33:35,680
highly sensitive aerospace situation

3827
02:33:38,870 --> 02:33:38,080
aerospace corp yeah aerospace corp

3828
02:33:41,990 --> 02:33:38,880
exactly

3829
02:33:44,870 --> 02:33:42,000
one of the splitters from i think hughes

3830
02:33:45,830 --> 02:33:44,880
and um yeah he's working in some serious

3831
02:33:47,110 --> 02:33:45,840
stuff and i he

3832
02:33:49,830 --> 02:33:47,120
doesn't want to talk to people like me

3833
02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:49,840
or probably you yeah and

3834
02:33:56,389 --> 02:33:53,760
is there should and i'm i'm putting this

3835
02:33:59,030 --> 02:33:56,399
out there into the universe right now

3836
02:34:00,469 --> 02:33:59,040
should we reach out to eric and and go

3837
02:34:02,950 --> 02:34:00,479
dude

3838
02:34:04,389 --> 02:34:02,960
what did you mean by that is this

3839
02:34:07,670 --> 02:34:04,399
something that you've just

3840
02:34:10,870 --> 02:34:07,680
heard in in the ufo circles

3841
02:34:11,670 --> 02:34:10,880
right it's part of of urban legend and

3842
02:34:15,030 --> 02:34:11,680
you were just

3843
02:34:17,429 --> 02:34:15,040
repeating this willy-nilly or

3844
02:34:18,950 --> 02:34:17,439
where did you get this information from

3845
02:34:19,750 --> 02:34:18,960
you could try i mean i don't think he's

3846
02:34:21,429 --> 02:34:19,760
going to answer

3847
02:34:22,630 --> 02:34:21,439
if he does then i'll know for sure he

3848
02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:22,640
really doesn't like me because that

3849
02:34:25,110 --> 02:34:24,160
would just be an excuse not to talk to

3850
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:25,120
dolan but

3851
02:34:28,550 --> 02:34:27,760
i i mean if if it's true that he can't

3852
02:34:30,230 --> 02:34:28,560
then

3853
02:34:33,910 --> 02:34:30,240
i think he's just not talking to people

3854
02:34:37,510 --> 02:34:33,920
right now i i i said to ralph

3855
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:37,520
this is probably the most extraordinary

3856
02:34:41,110 --> 02:34:39,520
sentence ever to be printed in the new

3857
02:34:43,670 --> 02:34:41,120
york times this

3858
02:34:44,950 --> 02:34:43,680
this right here it was quite powerful i

3859
02:34:47,990 --> 02:34:44,960
agree with you

3860
02:34:51,750 --> 02:34:51,110
you know i mean it's essentially it's

3861
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:51,760
this

3862
02:34:56,870 --> 02:34:55,600
admission of crash retrievals of ufos

3863
02:34:58,469 --> 02:34:56,880
that's right

3864
02:35:00,230 --> 02:34:58,479
it's about as close as you can get

3865
02:35:03,270 --> 02:35:00,240
without actually saying it

3866
02:35:04,870 --> 02:35:03,280
um uh one last uh let's

3867
02:35:06,309 --> 02:35:04,880
i'm gonna take one more crack at you

3868
02:35:07,670 --> 02:35:06,319
here and i know it's getting late on the

3869
02:35:13,190 --> 02:35:07,680
east coast and

3870
02:35:16,389 --> 02:35:13,200
and i appreciate this conversation um uh

3871
02:35:18,950 --> 02:35:16,399
i don't i don't want to say specifically

3872
02:35:20,790 --> 02:35:18,960
what i'm talking about but i'm going to

3873
02:35:23,110 --> 02:35:20,800
you are going to know but let's keep

3874
02:35:26,230 --> 02:35:23,120
this a little bit private

3875
02:35:30,150 --> 02:35:26,240
because suitably vague yeah we are

3876
02:35:33,429 --> 02:35:30,160
in uh we are part of a certain email

3877
02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:33,439
chain group right okay

3878
02:35:37,110 --> 02:35:35,040
all right all right hello talking yeah

3879
02:35:38,870 --> 02:35:37,120
yeah i haven't been following it lately

3880
02:35:42,309 --> 02:35:38,880
though it's like it gets too crazy

3881
02:35:45,349 --> 02:35:42,319
it's too crazy they're they're nutty

3882
02:35:47,910 --> 02:35:45,359
and and ellen scream right right but

3883
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:47,920
important too that's the other part

3884
02:35:54,230 --> 02:35:49,920
right and you're watching

3885
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:54,240
these these fabled names these respected

3886
02:35:59,270 --> 02:35:57,359
going at it man going at it and and i

3887
02:36:02,550 --> 02:35:59,280
jumped in on it last week

3888
02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:02,560
and uh but anyway

3889
02:36:09,750 --> 02:36:06,399
um so but there are

3890
02:36:11,910 --> 02:36:09,760
there is a certain

3891
02:36:13,429 --> 02:36:11,920
level i'm talking age there's a certain

3892
02:36:17,750 --> 02:36:13,439
level of age

3893
02:36:20,790 --> 02:36:17,760
of of people that could have

3894
02:36:23,990 --> 02:36:20,800
done more in the past

3895
02:36:27,030 --> 02:36:24,000
and they didn't and now they are

3896
02:36:28,950 --> 02:36:27,040
witnessing what is happening

3897
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:28,960
right now that they have nothing to do

3898
02:36:32,550 --> 02:36:31,200
with they have nothing to do

3899
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:32,560
you say they could have done more in the

3900
02:36:38,309 --> 02:36:35,439
past i mean what do you mean

3901
02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:38,319
promote like a disclosure of ufos they

3902
02:36:43,590 --> 02:36:40,000
could have pushed more

3903
02:36:46,070 --> 02:36:43,600
yes and and and i i firmly believe that

3904
02:36:47,750 --> 02:36:46,080
and i've almost wanted to jump in

3905
02:36:49,670 --> 02:36:47,760
richard on this

3906
02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:49,680
in this group and said you know what

3907
02:36:52,950 --> 02:36:51,680
what have you guys done lately

3908
02:36:54,550 --> 02:36:52,960
you know you want to sit here and you

3909
02:36:55,750 --> 02:36:54,560
want to fight you want to complain and

3910
02:36:58,070 --> 02:36:55,760
you want to state this

3911
02:36:58,950 --> 02:36:58,080
as fact and and what is going on but

3912
02:37:02,389 --> 02:36:58,960
what have you done

3913
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:02,399
now and you didn't do and right now it's

3914
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:03,600
getting done

3915
02:37:06,710 --> 02:37:05,680
and you guys had nothing to do with it

3916
02:37:08,710 --> 02:37:06,720
nothing

3917
02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:08,720
you what's happening today you guys

3918
02:37:14,870 --> 02:37:10,960
could have done 30 years ago

3919
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:14,880
back when you were you know young and

3920
02:37:19,190 --> 02:37:17,439
and full of spunk and fight and you guys

3921
02:37:20,230 --> 02:37:19,200
didn't do anything back then you did

3922
02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:20,240
nothing

3923
02:37:24,150 --> 02:37:22,319
and here we are today it's getting done

3924
02:37:25,190 --> 02:37:24,160
and now you guys want to fight amongst

3925
02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:25,200
your aged

3926
02:37:31,510 --> 02:37:28,000
selves and i'm being very serious about

3927
02:37:34,790 --> 02:37:33,270
well someone had to do the disco dancing

3928
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:34,800
back then jimmy so give him a little bit

3929
02:37:37,750 --> 02:37:35,280
of a

3930
02:37:40,950 --> 02:37:37,760
break there but all right in all

3931
02:37:45,510 --> 02:37:43,670
uh i'm picturing some of those guys i

3932
02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:45,520
think you're being a little harsh

3933
02:37:51,750 --> 02:37:49,520
it's easy it's easy to critique

3934
02:37:53,429 --> 02:37:51,760
those earlier eras like they lived

3935
02:37:56,150 --> 02:37:53,439
through what they lived

3936
02:37:57,910 --> 02:37:56,160
they were in pre-internet era how do you

3937
02:38:00,790 --> 02:37:57,920
break ufo secrecy

3938
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:00,800
in the 1970s or 80s i mean it's not like

3939
02:38:06,309 --> 02:38:03,600
it's an easy thing for them to do

3940
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:06,319
it's not easy in any case so i'm not

3941
02:38:11,429 --> 02:38:08,080
sure i don't know how fair you'd be

3942
02:38:12,870 --> 02:38:11,439
no i'm not i i'm not uh i'm not happy

3943
02:38:16,790 --> 02:38:12,880
about this at all

3944
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:16,800
and to watch uh this older group

3945
02:38:20,870 --> 02:38:19,520
uh complain like you know you know an

3946
02:38:23,590 --> 02:38:20,880
old guy walking down the street

3947
02:38:23,910 --> 02:38:23,600
russia get off my hemorrhoids and

3948
02:38:27,030 --> 02:38:23,920
they've

3949
02:38:30,070 --> 02:38:27,040
got a freaking you know

3950
02:38:32,150 --> 02:38:30,080
whatever issues come up when you get

3951
02:38:33,990 --> 02:38:32,160
that old and cr like it's easy to be

3952
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:34,000
cranky

3953
02:38:37,349 --> 02:38:36,080
half their friends are dead or more than

3954
02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:37,359
half

3955
02:38:40,630 --> 02:38:38,479
i mean let's face it it's like it's

3956
02:38:41,590 --> 02:38:40,640
difficult getting old who wants to do

3957
02:38:44,150 --> 02:38:41,600
that

3958
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:44,160
i'm feeling i'm going to be 59 in a

3959
02:38:46,469 --> 02:38:45,120
couple of days

3960
02:38:49,510 --> 02:38:46,479
i'm going to be not excited i'm not

3961
02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:49,520
excited about it i'm going to be 58.

3962
02:38:52,710 --> 02:38:51,280
i'm going to be 58. you're right on my

3963
02:38:55,030 --> 02:38:52,720
heels i am

3964
02:38:55,990 --> 02:38:55,040
it doesn't it doesn't get there's nice

3965
02:38:59,429 --> 02:38:56,000
things about getting

3966
02:38:59,990 --> 02:38:59,439
older there are but the body is not part

3967
02:39:02,710 --> 02:39:00,000
of that

3968
02:39:04,469 --> 02:39:02,720
nice thing like the body is not one of

3969
02:39:06,790 --> 02:39:04,479
the fun things

3970
02:39:08,870 --> 02:39:06,800
so it's easy to get cranky it's easy to

3971
02:39:11,110 --> 02:39:08,880
be disillusioned

3972
02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:11,120
i i i don't i don't know most of those

3973
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:14,080
guys personally i wouldn't say but

3974
02:39:18,230 --> 02:39:16,080
i'm trying to learn compassion rather

3975
02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:18,240
than judging this with a lot of these

3976
02:39:21,429 --> 02:39:19,600
guys because

3977
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:21,439
the thing is we all check in we all

3978
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:23,200
check out we all have a limited amount

3979
02:39:27,830 --> 02:39:24,880
of time on this world

3980
02:39:28,630 --> 02:39:27,840
and it's it's difficult it's actually

3981
02:39:32,469 --> 02:39:28,640
difficult

3982
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:32,479
negotiating one's way through life so

3983
02:39:35,590 --> 02:39:35,200
i i'm more at the attitude at this point

3984
02:39:37,510 --> 02:39:35,600
of

3985
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:37,520
appreciating what i get from those

3986
02:39:40,790 --> 02:39:39,120
people rather than

3987
02:39:42,469 --> 02:39:40,800
bitching i'm not saying you're bitching

3988
02:39:43,910 --> 02:39:42,479
but then bitching about what i'm not

3989
02:39:45,110 --> 02:39:43,920
getting from them

3990
02:39:47,110 --> 02:39:45,120
because it's actually any kind of

3991
02:39:50,150 --> 02:39:47,120
contribution is difficult

3992
02:39:52,630 --> 02:39:50,160
and is valuable so

3993
02:39:54,309 --> 02:39:52,640
like some of those people are brilliant

3994
02:39:57,510 --> 02:39:54,319
one's a brilliant physicist

3995
02:39:58,309 --> 02:39:57,520
mm-hmm and i have a couple of his books

3996
02:40:01,190 --> 02:39:58,319
they're cool books

3997
02:40:03,590 --> 02:40:01,200
i do too they're fascinating you know i

3998
02:40:06,150 --> 02:40:03,600
hate fighting with them you know and

3999
02:40:08,710 --> 02:40:06,160
i avoid i avoid the fight he shot me a

4000
02:40:12,309 --> 02:40:08,720
couple of uh personal emails last week

4001
02:40:15,590 --> 02:40:12,319
and uh uh outside of the list right

4002
02:40:19,030 --> 02:40:15,600
dropping some f-bombs oh seriously oh

4003
02:40:20,950 --> 02:40:19,040
dude right come on man and uh i

4004
02:40:22,389 --> 02:40:20,960
literally think what the hell are they

4005
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:22,399
talking about but some people know

4006
02:40:26,950 --> 02:40:24,160
exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah

4007
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:26,960
and uh brilliant i mean we're we're

4008
02:40:31,590 --> 02:40:28,160
talking about

4009
02:40:33,349 --> 02:40:31,600
high level uh earth-changing

4010
02:40:35,269 --> 02:40:33,359
physics research here we're not we're

4011
02:40:37,190 --> 02:40:35,279
not mentioning names because why we just

4012
02:40:39,269 --> 02:40:37,200
don't want to get bitched at least

4013
02:40:40,710 --> 02:40:39,279
that that email chain is going to light

4014
02:40:42,309 --> 02:40:40,720
up tomorrow no we're going to keep it

4015
02:40:46,389 --> 02:40:42,319
clean we have to

4016
02:40:48,230 --> 02:40:46,399
um but uh uh man i feel like i've just

4017
02:40:51,349 --> 02:40:48,240
really crossed the line here

4018
02:40:53,590 --> 02:40:51,359
but um i just run away from the fights

4019
02:40:54,389 --> 02:40:53,600
all right that's my story you know what

4020
02:40:57,349 --> 02:40:54,399
it's uh

4021
02:40:58,870 --> 02:40:57,359
it is pure entertainment sometimes

4022
02:40:59,830 --> 02:40:58,880
though when you start going through that

4023
02:41:01,670 --> 02:40:59,840
chain and how

4024
02:41:03,190 --> 02:41:01,680
if the response is and they're flying

4025
02:41:06,230 --> 02:41:03,200
back and forth

4026
02:41:08,230 --> 02:41:06,240
and and i'm looking at the names of uh

4027
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:08,240
some we've mentioned tonight on the air

4028
02:41:12,630 --> 02:41:09,359
that are part of

4029
02:41:15,269 --> 02:41:12,640
and uh it's it's

4030
02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:15,279
it's been a fun ride well listen i hope

4031
02:41:19,670 --> 02:41:16,399
that richard

4032
02:41:22,469 --> 02:41:19,680
uh honestly and i and i say this

4033
02:41:23,910 --> 02:41:22,479
uh with love that i hope that over the

4034
02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:23,920
next couple of weeks

4035
02:41:29,830 --> 02:41:27,120
uh you are able to say

4036
02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:29,840
i wrote about this in a.d i wrote about

4037
02:41:33,670 --> 02:41:30,479
this

4038
02:41:36,710 --> 02:41:33,680
in in in in the past

4039
02:41:37,269 --> 02:41:36,720
um this is this is how i saw it playing

4040
02:41:40,230 --> 02:41:37,279
out

4041
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:40,240
and and these are great times and and i

4042
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:41,840
really i really hope you have that

4043
02:41:46,550 --> 02:41:44,000
opportunity and i really mean that

4044
02:41:48,469 --> 02:41:46,560
thank you jimmy and i hope it happens as

4045
02:41:49,190 --> 02:41:48,479
well not for myself but because i would

4046
02:41:53,269 --> 02:41:49,200
like to see

4047
02:41:55,990 --> 02:41:53,279
a post a genuinely post-disclosure world

4048
02:41:58,790 --> 02:41:56,000
i really believe we're at a point in our

4049
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:58,800
civilization where we need something

4050
02:42:03,670 --> 02:42:00,560
very very big

4051
02:42:04,070 --> 02:42:03,680
to happen to throw a monkey wrench into

4052
02:42:07,030 --> 02:42:04,080
it

4053
02:42:08,469 --> 02:42:07,040
into a direction that i can't be the

4054
02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:08,479
only one who's terrified of the

4055
02:42:13,190 --> 02:42:10,960
direction that this world is going

4056
02:42:14,710 --> 02:42:13,200
and i don't know if i see an easy way to

4057
02:42:18,630 --> 02:42:14,720
stop it

4058
02:42:22,070 --> 02:42:18,640
that is a digital control system

4059
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:22,080
that uh it's it feels like the borg is

4060
02:42:28,389 --> 02:42:25,120
coming it's like this inexorable thing

4061
02:42:31,349 --> 02:42:28,399
and but a a large-scale

4062
02:42:33,670 --> 02:42:31,359
recognition of a lifetime's worth of

4063
02:42:37,030 --> 02:42:33,680
lies and secrecy

4064
02:42:39,590 --> 02:42:37,040
on something so important as ufos

4065
02:42:40,070 --> 02:42:39,600
if if there's anything that can wake

4066
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:40,080
people

4067
02:42:44,550 --> 02:42:41,680
up to the fact that they've been lied to

4068
02:42:46,309 --> 02:42:44,560
and that they need to get control over

4069
02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:46,319
their system and get transparency from

4070
02:42:49,349 --> 02:42:47,920
the government well i can't think of

4071
02:42:51,670 --> 02:42:49,359
anything bigger

4072
02:42:52,710 --> 02:42:51,680
than ufo disclosure i don't know if

4073
02:42:55,030 --> 02:42:52,720
that's going to be enough

4074
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:55,040
frankly and i could easily see ufo

4075
02:42:59,670 --> 02:42:56,560
disclosure being

4076
02:43:01,349 --> 02:42:59,680
co-opted by that very power elite for

4077
02:43:02,870 --> 02:43:01,359
its own purposes i can easily see that

4078
02:43:05,590 --> 02:43:02,880
happening

4079
02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:05,600
but um it's like the last best hope

4080
02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:07,040
maybe

4081
02:43:14,389 --> 02:43:10,880
a big one yeah one of the things that

4082
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:14,399
uh i never thought richard that i mean

4083
02:43:18,630 --> 02:43:16,160
we've all seen the movies we've all read

4084
02:43:19,190 --> 02:43:18,640
the books but i never thought that there

4085
02:43:22,230 --> 02:43:19,200
would be

4086
02:43:25,429 --> 02:43:22,240
a reality in my brain

4087
02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:25,439
in our world that if i say

4088
02:43:32,150 --> 02:43:28,640
one wrong word

4089
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:32,160
that a digital algorithm

4090
02:43:36,389 --> 02:43:34,720
is going to seek me out from all of the

4091
02:43:36,710 --> 02:43:36,399
information that is on this planet right

4092
02:43:39,670 --> 02:43:36,720
now

4093
02:43:41,590 --> 02:43:39,680
flying around on the internet that it's

4094
02:43:44,630 --> 02:43:41,600
going to trigger

4095
02:43:46,870 --> 02:43:44,640
censorship on me

4096
02:43:49,910 --> 02:43:46,880
and i i just can't believe that's the

4097
02:43:50,309 --> 02:43:49,920
kind of digital reality that we are in

4098
02:43:53,590 --> 02:43:50,319
where

4099
02:43:56,389 --> 02:43:53,600
i have to censor my mind

4100
02:43:56,790 --> 02:43:56,399
before i speak words everyone is doing

4101
02:43:58,950 --> 02:43:56,800
yes

4102
02:44:00,070 --> 02:43:58,960
it's terrifying like in the in the

4103
02:44:02,630 --> 02:44:00,080
matrix

4104
02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:02,640
uh the first one which is the great one

4105
02:44:05,349 --> 02:44:03,200
uh

4106
02:44:06,550 --> 02:44:05,359
they're in the nebuchadnezzar the ship

4107
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:06,560
and they have to watch out for the

4108
02:44:10,550 --> 02:44:07,600
sentinels

4109
02:44:11,510 --> 02:44:10,560
that are swaying around the sewers right

4110
02:44:12,790 --> 02:44:11,520
that's what this that's what the

4111
02:44:14,469 --> 02:44:12,800
algorithms are

4112
02:44:16,469 --> 02:44:14,479
they're like the sentinels and you've

4113
02:44:18,710 --> 02:44:16,479
got to like shut the power down you

4114
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:18,720
can't let them see you you can't speak

4115
02:44:23,750 --> 02:44:20,160
the whole culture is becoming

4116
02:44:27,269 --> 02:44:23,760
yes yes yes and uh the

4117
02:44:30,550 --> 02:44:27,279
the lives of uh private citizens

4118
02:44:34,870 --> 02:44:30,560
in these author terror total

4119
02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:34,880
uh uh dictatorship controlled societies

4120
02:44:38,950 --> 02:44:36,000
in the past

4121
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:38,960
where you had to be paranoid about your

4122
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:40,000
neighbors

4123
02:44:43,110 --> 02:44:41,920
right they're listening you know you

4124
02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:43,120
can't play a record

4125
02:44:46,870 --> 02:44:46,000
because a record is illegal so you can't

4126
02:44:49,269 --> 02:44:46,880
sit

4127
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:49,279
with a phonograph it because if your

4128
02:44:52,630 --> 02:44:50,479
neighbor's here

4129
02:44:54,070 --> 02:44:52,640
they're gonna rat you out and the police

4130
02:44:54,870 --> 02:44:54,080
are gonna be and everybody goes to

4131
02:44:57,510 --> 02:44:54,880
prison

4132
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:57,520
right it was like that where you had to

4133
02:45:02,550 --> 02:44:59,600
live in that existence of

4134
02:45:03,750 --> 02:45:02,560
being ratted out to the man we are now

4135
02:45:06,550 --> 02:45:03,760
living that today

4136
02:45:07,990 --> 02:45:06,560
in a digital way right we don't have it

4137
02:45:09,910 --> 02:45:08,000
as bad in the u.s

4138
02:45:12,150 --> 02:45:09,920
i mean it's worse here than it's ever

4139
02:45:13,349 --> 02:45:12,160
been but other countries like there are

4140
02:45:16,230 --> 02:45:13,359
many countries

4141
02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:16,240
on this planet right now that are living

4142
02:45:20,469 --> 02:45:16,960
in

4143
02:45:24,469 --> 02:45:20,479
countries

4144
02:45:27,750 --> 02:45:24,479
pakistan iran yeah like digital control

4145
02:45:31,990 --> 02:45:27,760
is total and you really

4146
02:45:35,429 --> 02:45:32,000
can't there's not an easy way to

4147
02:45:37,190 --> 02:45:35,439
break free of those methods of control

4148
02:45:39,670 --> 02:45:37,200
and uh i i think it would be interesting

4149
02:45:40,790 --> 02:45:39,680
to for someone to

4150
02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:40,800
find out like what percentage of the

4151
02:45:43,910 --> 02:45:42,560
world population is living under

4152
02:45:45,830 --> 02:45:43,920
complete

4153
02:45:47,349 --> 02:45:45,840
like full-blown totalitarian digital

4154
02:45:48,309 --> 02:45:47,359
control at this point it's probably a

4155
02:45:54,070 --> 02:45:48,319
very high percentage

4156
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:54,080
we're maybe a decade behind china i gave

4157
02:45:57,269 --> 02:45:55,600
it a give it 10 years

4158
02:45:58,950 --> 02:45:57,279
you know where you got the social credit

4159
02:45:59,750 --> 02:45:58,960
they've got a formal social credit

4160
02:46:01,910 --> 02:45:59,760
system in

4161
02:46:03,510 --> 02:46:01,920
we have an informal one ours is ours is

4162
02:46:05,030 --> 02:46:03,520
private corporations facebook twitter

4163
02:46:05,510 --> 02:46:05,040
and all that that's our social credit

4164
02:46:10,309 --> 02:46:05,520
system

4165
02:46:11,990 --> 02:46:10,319
and it's going to become more um encoded

4166
02:46:13,510 --> 02:46:12,000
into the law

4167
02:46:16,230 --> 02:46:13,520
i think we'll see that in the next few

4168
02:46:19,349 --> 02:46:16,240
years so yeah it's just

4169
02:46:23,590 --> 02:46:19,359
bad it's been a revolution

4170
02:46:24,870 --> 02:46:23,600
and uh honestly i mean i just

4171
02:46:27,190 --> 02:46:24,880
i don't know what to do about it i don't

4172
02:46:30,550 --> 02:46:27,200
know where where where can one go

4173
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:30,560
to escape it you duck

4174
02:46:35,429 --> 02:46:33,600
yeah or or you stand and fight but that

4175
02:46:36,630 --> 02:46:35,439
this is again why i think disclosure is

4176
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:36,640
at least

4177
02:46:43,269 --> 02:46:40,880
it's something that's in our arsenal

4178
02:46:44,790 --> 02:46:43,279
and it potentially could be useful now

4179
02:46:45,349 --> 02:46:44,800
we've been talking about that for so

4180
02:46:48,630 --> 02:46:45,359
long

4181
02:46:50,309 --> 02:46:48,640
uh going back to december of 2017 that's

4182
02:46:52,230 --> 02:46:50,319
four years now

4183
02:46:54,550 --> 02:46:52,240
it's not i mean i can't believe four

4184
02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:54,560
years has blown past us

4185
02:46:59,030 --> 02:46:57,760
but four years ago we were talking about

4186
02:47:01,590 --> 02:46:59,040
the days of disclosure

4187
02:47:03,349 --> 02:47:01,600
it's here we finally got here we we're

4188
02:47:04,830 --> 02:47:03,359
here it's the days of disclosure

4189
02:47:08,469 --> 02:47:04,840
december 17

4190
02:47:09,269 --> 02:47:08,479
2017 it's the it's the historical

4191
02:47:11,030 --> 02:47:09,279
turning point

4192
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:11,040
well it took four years to get to where

4193
02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:13,120
we are today

4194
02:47:18,469 --> 02:47:16,240
is this the days of disclosure i mean

4195
02:47:21,269 --> 02:47:18,479
what is different now than the new york

4196
02:47:22,790 --> 02:47:21,279
times in 2017.

4197
02:47:24,550 --> 02:47:22,800
well the culture has definitely gone to

4198
02:47:28,309 --> 02:47:24,560
some there's some changes

4199
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:28,319
so in december 2017 the culture hadn't

4200
02:47:33,190 --> 02:47:31,279
changed really and that was the that was

4201
02:47:35,590 --> 02:47:33,200
the opening shot

4202
02:47:37,269 --> 02:47:35,600
but since that time really three and a

4203
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:37,279
half years but we can say four

4204
02:47:44,550 --> 02:47:41,520
but there's been enough of a change in

4205
02:47:46,630 --> 02:47:44,560
the establishment culture that's really

4206
02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:46,640
and and the cut below establishment

4207
02:47:49,110 --> 02:47:47,760
culture like when

4208
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:49,120
there's a lot of big youtube channels

4209
02:47:52,469 --> 02:47:50,880
now that are

4210
02:47:53,990 --> 02:47:52,479
it's hard to say you know what their

4211
02:47:54,710 --> 02:47:54,000
role here is but there's a lot of

4212
02:47:58,790 --> 02:47:54,720
smaller

4213
02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:58,800
lower level um mainstreamish

4214
02:48:02,230 --> 02:48:00,800
mainstreamers type of people out there

4215
02:48:04,550 --> 02:48:02,240
that are talking about ufos so there's

4216
02:48:06,950 --> 02:48:04,560
definitely been a change in the culture

4217
02:48:08,870 --> 02:48:06,960
i don't think that's going to go back i

4218
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:08,880
don't think that's going to go back so

4219
02:48:14,150 --> 02:48:11,920
we're we're in a new place but

4220
02:48:16,790 --> 02:48:14,160
we could we could be stalled here where

4221
02:48:20,389 --> 02:48:16,800
we are for a long time

4222
02:48:21,030 --> 02:48:20,399
the uh uh one you know two more places

4223
02:48:22,070 --> 02:48:21,040
of saying

4224
02:48:23,269 --> 02:48:22,080
there's something out there we don't

4225
02:48:24,070 --> 02:48:23,279
know what it is like we could be at that

4226
02:48:27,590 --> 02:48:24,080
forever

4227
02:48:28,710 --> 02:48:27,600
a long time is has the the significance

4228
02:48:31,910 --> 02:48:28,720
of the media

4229
02:48:33,110 --> 02:48:31,920
uh been diminished uh a little bit if we

4230
02:48:35,190 --> 02:48:33,120
think about

4231
02:48:36,630 --> 02:48:35,200
60 minutes you know that was just three

4232
02:48:39,190 --> 02:48:36,640
weeks ago right that was

4233
02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:39,200
yeah a month ago right the number one

4234
02:48:44,710 --> 02:48:40,399
news program for

4235
02:48:47,030 --> 02:48:44,720
50 years in the united states does what

4236
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:47,040
uh does what they did with the uap

4237
02:48:50,870 --> 02:48:48,399
subject

4238
02:48:51,670 --> 02:48:50,880
and i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna say this i

4239
02:48:56,870 --> 02:48:51,680
don't care who i

4240
02:49:00,150 --> 02:48:56,880
offend crickets crickets after that

4241
02:49:01,990 --> 02:49:00,160
right there wasn't any uh right yeah

4242
02:49:03,670 --> 02:49:02,000
yeah there wasn't any drama not only in

4243
02:49:05,750 --> 02:49:03,680
the united states but what about

4244
02:49:06,230 --> 02:49:05,760
worldwide we're talking about 60 minutes

4245
02:49:08,150 --> 02:49:06,240
here from

4246
02:49:10,150 --> 02:49:08,160
even the new yorker article which was

4247
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:10,160
like right before that

4248
02:49:13,910 --> 02:49:11,920
that was actually i mean for mainstream

4249
02:49:14,230 --> 02:49:13,920
publication the new york article in ufos

4250
02:49:18,950 --> 02:49:14,240
and

4251
02:49:20,150 --> 02:49:18,960
duty stuff that was actually a decent

4252
02:49:22,469 --> 02:49:20,160
article

4253
02:49:24,309 --> 02:49:22,479
a lot of it was about leslie kane and a

4254
02:49:27,510 --> 02:49:24,319
little bit on mick west

4255
02:49:29,030 --> 02:49:27,520
um but there was a lot of great

4256
02:49:30,790 --> 02:49:29,040
information in there

4257
02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:30,800
and not really follow up from that

4258
02:49:35,590 --> 02:49:32,560
either yeah yeah yeah

4259
02:49:39,030 --> 02:49:35,600
or fall out right right

4260
02:49:42,710 --> 02:49:39,040
or fall out and uh i asked ralph

4261
02:49:46,070 --> 02:49:42,720
going back to ralph blumenthal i said uh

4262
02:49:49,030 --> 02:49:46,080
the the article in the new yorker

4263
02:49:50,710 --> 02:49:49,040
i think that the new yorker represents

4264
02:49:53,870 --> 02:49:50,720
the manhattan

4265
02:49:55,030 --> 02:49:53,880
uh lifestyle right little highbrow

4266
02:49:58,230 --> 02:49:55,040
intelligentsia

4267
02:49:59,910 --> 02:49:58,240
you know educated uh uh you know the

4268
02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:59,920
manhattan world

4269
02:50:03,030 --> 02:50:01,520
and that's what the new yorker has

4270
02:50:06,710 --> 02:50:03,040
always represented

4271
02:50:08,309 --> 02:50:06,720
um what well here's how i would say this

4272
02:50:10,150 --> 02:50:08,319
i'm sorry yeah well i said how did

4273
02:50:11,349 --> 02:50:10,160
manhattan react he said you know what

4274
02:50:13,590 --> 02:50:11,359
i'm not sure if

4275
02:50:17,110 --> 02:50:13,600
if it represents manhattan anymore the

4276
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:17,120
new yorker is more of a worldwide online

4277
02:50:20,790 --> 02:50:19,120
publication now and i'm not sure how

4278
02:50:23,429 --> 02:50:20,800
many people in manhattan

4279
02:50:24,630 --> 02:50:23,439
consider it their magazine today one

4280
02:50:26,230 --> 02:50:24,640
thing i'd like to know

4281
02:50:27,830 --> 02:50:26,240
and i don't really have the answer to

4282
02:50:29,990 --> 02:50:27,840
this maybe you do or maybe someone

4283
02:50:33,429 --> 02:50:30,000
listening does

4284
02:50:35,590 --> 02:50:33,439
the ownership of the new yorker

4285
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:35,600
in general i'm sure that someone can

4286
02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:37,920
google this really quickly

4287
02:50:41,190 --> 02:50:40,160
and how independent was the new yorker's

4288
02:50:44,469 --> 02:50:41,200
decision in

4289
02:50:46,870 --> 02:50:44,479
publishing that article in other words

4290
02:50:49,910 --> 02:50:46,880
was this a renegade or an actual

4291
02:50:51,269 --> 02:50:49,920
independent decision that was made that

4292
02:50:54,630 --> 02:50:51,279
was not part of

4293
02:50:58,230 --> 02:50:54,640
the establishment uh that was

4294
02:50:58,630 --> 02:50:58,240
that was not part of the the agenda of

4295
02:51:01,269 --> 02:50:58,640
the

4296
02:51:01,670 --> 02:51:01,279
truly controlled establishment media was

4297
02:51:03,110 --> 02:51:01,680
this

4298
02:51:04,710 --> 02:51:03,120
a genuinely independent thing and same

4299
02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:04,720
with 60 minutes

4300
02:51:08,389 --> 02:51:07,439
is it possible that they were engaging

4301
02:51:10,070 --> 02:51:08,399
in genuinely

4302
02:51:12,309 --> 02:51:10,080
independent that someone in those

4303
02:51:13,269 --> 02:51:12,319
organizations fought to get those things

4304
02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:13,279
in there

4305
02:51:18,469 --> 02:51:14,479
and if that's the case that would

4306
02:51:20,469 --> 02:51:18,479
explain the lack of response conde nast

4307
02:51:21,590 --> 02:51:20,479
yeah so they're huge that's a big they

4308
02:51:24,630 --> 02:51:21,600
own a

4309
02:51:26,070 --> 02:51:24,640
vogue vanity fair in about 500 other

4310
02:51:28,389 --> 02:51:26,080
publications

4311
02:51:30,630 --> 02:51:28,399
yeah so you figured someone had they had

4312
02:51:33,670 --> 02:51:30,640
to be part of something big but

4313
02:51:35,670 --> 02:51:33,680
still the question is what what was the

4314
02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:35,680
back story of how that article and why

4315
02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:37,279
it got published like i don't know that

4316
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:38,240
story

4317
02:51:42,790 --> 02:51:40,000
well i would think something yeah and i

4318
02:51:45,510 --> 02:51:42,800
guess i guess what i'm suggesting here

4319
02:51:47,190 --> 02:51:45,520
is with all of the media pushes like the

4320
02:51:50,150 --> 02:51:47,200
new yorker

4321
02:51:51,030 --> 02:51:50,160
you've got to go uh the examiner and

4322
02:51:54,389 --> 02:51:51,040
washington

4323
02:51:57,349 --> 02:51:54,399
examiner 60 minutes tucker carlson

4324
02:51:58,309 --> 02:51:57,359
right the push that has been out there i

4325
02:52:01,349 --> 02:51:58,319
just watched an

4326
02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:01,359
excellent interview uh today uh that

4327
02:52:04,950 --> 02:52:02,800
happened on cnn of

4328
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:04,960
of all places with ralph blumenthal i

4329
02:52:09,190 --> 02:52:06,000
thought it was a

4330
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:09,200
uh an excellent he was on cnn yeah and

4331
02:52:12,950 --> 02:52:10,160
uh

4332
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:12,960
with the massive amount of media that

4333
02:52:19,110 --> 02:52:16,240
has been pushing this out there

4334
02:52:20,389 --> 02:52:19,120
there's been no anarchy right there

4335
02:52:22,230 --> 02:52:20,399
carlson's been amazing

4336
02:52:23,990 --> 02:52:22,240
over at fox he's actually the guy is

4337
02:52:26,309 --> 02:52:24,000
incredible with ufos in my view

4338
02:52:27,670 --> 02:52:26,319
and nobody's stream journalist nobody's

4339
02:52:30,870 --> 02:52:27,680
jumped off any buildings

4340
02:52:33,670 --> 02:52:30,880
richard no no

4341
02:52:35,429 --> 02:52:33,680
and um it's true like the follow-up has

4342
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:35,439
been very muted to all of these big

4343
02:52:37,750 --> 02:52:36,399
articles

4344
02:52:41,349 --> 02:52:37,760
i've got a list in front of me here now

4345
02:52:44,150 --> 02:52:41,359
i just pulled it up like about 20

4346
02:52:45,510 --> 02:52:44,160
headline articles on ufos over the last

4347
02:52:49,030 --> 02:52:45,520
three and a half years

4348
02:52:49,830 --> 02:52:49,040
like big any one of which a decade ago

4349
02:52:53,510 --> 02:52:49,840
would have been

4350
02:52:56,230 --> 02:52:53,520
wow massive news and we've got about 20

4351
02:52:58,870 --> 02:52:56,240
that i've got here in front of me from

4352
02:53:00,710 --> 02:52:58,880
the end of 2017 and

4353
02:53:02,710 --> 02:53:00,720
i mean there's been a cumulative effect

4354
02:53:04,150 --> 02:53:02,720
so it hasn't been for nothing but

4355
02:53:05,990 --> 02:53:04,160
my goodness like you would i would have

4356
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:06,000
just thought more

4357
02:53:10,150 --> 02:53:08,800
that would have happened but it has not

4358
02:53:13,750 --> 02:53:10,160
richard thank you so much

4359
02:53:17,030 --> 02:53:13,760
man oh lots of fun man uh

4360
02:53:20,230 --> 02:53:17,040
uh we blew through a commercial break

4361
02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:20,240
uh and it's it's getting late out there

4362
02:53:26,550 --> 02:53:23,040
thank you so much and uh here we go

4363
02:53:28,550 --> 02:53:26,560
tomorrow's the 24th friday's the 25th

4364
02:53:31,110 --> 02:53:28,560
and uh we will be having some

4365
02:53:33,670 --> 02:53:31,120
interesting conversations this weekend

4366
02:53:35,110 --> 02:53:33,680
you have to sit down and read that thing

4367
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:35,120
and take some notes and

4368
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:37,200
just more work well you're only going to

4369
02:53:41,590 --> 02:53:38,720
have to read 12 pages

4370
02:53:42,950 --> 02:53:41,600
my friend that's all you're gonna get

4371
02:53:45,590 --> 02:53:42,960
richard

4372
02:53:48,830 --> 02:53:45,600
it's gone with the classified version so

4373
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:48,840
i heard the new website is called

4374
02:53:52,950 --> 02:53:50,000
richardbleepindolinmembers.com

4375
02:53:54,710 --> 02:53:52,960
and congratulations on securing uh that

4376
02:53:55,429 --> 02:53:54,720
domain richard thank you so much my

4377
02:53:57,830 --> 02:53:55,439
friend

4378
02:53:58,950 --> 02:53:57,840
and uh let's uh hang out on the phone

4379
02:54:00,550 --> 02:53:58,960
this weekend

4380
02:54:02,710 --> 02:54:00,560
and uh let's see where this takes us

4381
02:54:04,150 --> 02:54:02,720
thank you so much thank you and thanks

4382
02:54:05,510 --> 02:54:04,160
to your awesome listeners

4383
02:54:07,910 --> 02:54:05,520
you're the best richard thank you so

4384
02:54:09,349 --> 02:54:07,920
much and i did blow through a commercial

4385
02:54:12,630 --> 02:54:09,359
break so i'm going to squeeze

4386
02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:12,640
in a commercial right now so i can pay

4387
02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:14,800
the bills thank you so much richard

4388
02:54:18,790 --> 02:54:17,920
again richarddolenmembers.com the links

4389
02:54:21,990 --> 02:54:18,800
are over at

4390
02:54:26,070 --> 02:54:22,000
jimmy jimmychurchradio.com and and

4391
02:54:26,550 --> 02:54:26,080
in case anybody noticed i snuck in over

4392
02:54:28,870 --> 02:54:26,560
time

4393
02:54:30,550 --> 02:54:28,880
yeah i was a little sleazy about it but

4394
02:54:35,600 --> 02:54:30,560
i had to do it i'll be right back after

4395
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:35,610
this short break stay with us

4396
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all right i want to thank richard dolan

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for coming in tonight

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that was a full two and a half hours and

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uh no commercial break uh that last two

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segments

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an extraordinary conversation and we are

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uh right now we are on the eve

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of the possibility of this report being

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released

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tomorrow tomorrow is the 24th anybody

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listening to me right now knows that

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tonight is

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june 23rd so tomorrow's the 24th uh the

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25th

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is friday uh

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man it's gonna be crazy it's absolutely

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going to be crazy so let's enjoy the

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moment

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let's see what's going to happen and we

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will

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obviously be pouring over this report

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with the fine-tuned comb and i can't

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wait to read it

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tomorrow night is fader night so if the

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report releases tomorrow well first off

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i'm gonna go live

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in the morning uh if it does bust out

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uh but if it it releases tomorrow

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tomorrow night's fade or night it's open

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lines all night long

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and we will have an awful lot to talk

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about

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and if it doesn't release tomorrow we've

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still got an

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awful lot to talk about it's uh

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it's one of the most amazing amazing

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weeks uh

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ever and uh and i'm spending it with all

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of you

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it's going to be crazy it's going to be

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fun let's ride this out together

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fade to black's executive producers

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reader kamarian shows produced by hill j

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music doug aldrich intro spaceboy

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fade to black is produced by kjcr for

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the planet this broadcast owned and

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copyrighted 2021 by fade to black in the

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it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

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universe

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without written permission from fade to

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black of the game changer network i'm

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your host jimmy church

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tomorrow night is fader night tonight's

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the 23rd tomorrow's the 24th

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until tomorrow night i want everybody to

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be safe

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it's time to fade to black

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